Heat Problem - Help Me Solve This...

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by INeedAGig1210, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. INeedAGig1210

    INeedAGig1210 Private E-2

    Alright, I am having a bit of a heat problem. I just got done building my PC, and I have not even installed Windows Yet.


    I am currently monitoring my temperatures in the H/W Monitor of my BIOS as I type this. My System Temperature is currently 29C-30C, and my CPU Temperature is fluctuating between 63C and 65C.


    I have two 80mm fans in the back blowing out, one 80mm in the bottom front blowing in, one 80mm fan on the window blowing in, and a 92mm Thermaltake fan/heatsink over my processor. It came with some thermal compouund on it which is currently melted on a white residue, but I have some Ultra 5+ Silver Thermal Compound that I have not used yet.


    My System Specs

    -MSI 925X Neo Platinum Edition Motherboard
    -Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz, 800Mhz FSB, HT
    -1GB Dual Channel PC4200 DDR 2 Memory
    -Dual Layer Samsung DVDR/RW
    -Floppy Drive
    -120GB Maxtor HDD
    -128MB Radeon RX300 PCI-Express x16 Video Card
    -500W Ultra PSU with two 80mm fans
    -Ultra Glossy Black "Dragon Series" Mid-T Case (a lil bigger than a standard Mid-T)


    Any help will be appreciated to get some safer temps, I will post some pictures if needed.

    Thanks!
     
  2. redneckrob

    redneckrob Private E-2

    Ok, replace the thermal pad with the artic silver 5, I just installed an all copper zalman, using artic silver 5, and my temps have dropped alot.

    2nd, how long was the cpu running when you checked temps, reason being is, it takes a bit for the pad to heat up and to flow into the microscopic valleys on the HS, go ahead and redo it with the artic silver, install your op sys and report back!
     
  3. INeedAGig1210

    INeedAGig1210 Private E-2

    I let it run for about a half hour and it was hovering between those temps. I will go ahead now and replace the goo.

    Is my overal system temp stable enough?
     
  4. Olley

    Olley Sergeant

    those temps are a little high but nothing to worry too much about... however u can certainly get rid of 10C on ur cpu with a good cooler and thermal paste
     
  5. INeedAGig1210

    INeedAGig1210 Private E-2

    Well, I applied the new thermal paste but it is still hitting 62C. Though, it probably won't cool down until it spreads itself over the whole processor.

    I uploaded a couple of pictures to my web server, you can check them out at the link below. Please note, these pictures were taken just as I got it done a few days ago, and I have since then cleaned up the cables.

    Pics of my rig
     
  6. Olley

    Olley Sergeant

    it should be spread all over the cpu from the start! but may take a while to become fully effective, my temps dropped about 5C after a couple of days
     
  7. redneckrob

    redneckrob Private E-2

    Artic silver 5 should not be spread, it should be placed in the center of the chip, bout the sixe of a grain of rice, the earlier versions of artic silver should be spread.
     
  8. Olley

    Olley Sergeant

    your right!
     
  9. xposure

    xposure Private E-2

    i got xactly the same Prob :\

    i think its the CPU ... cuz i red many Bad User reviews about this goddamn Processor.
     
  10. scope

    scope Private E-2

    i had the same problem these prescotts run pretty hot but can handle it, mine used to be in the 60's when idle and near 80 when underload but i applied some thermal compound and got rid of my wires abit and removed the grill from the fan and it dropped to 49 when idle and i've only the retail heatsink and a 80mm fan blowing air through a duct to the cpu. i'm in the process of getting some extra things like arctic silver 5 and possible a psu with 2 fans hopefully i can get it down more 49 is still abit high
     
  11. xposure

    xposure Private E-2

    i downloaded a research about the processor , it has a Heat problem thats for sure .

    the solution was replacing the Heatsink ..
    have a look

    HS web
     
  12. Dr_Evil

    Dr_Evil Private E-2

    MAN - This is THE problem of the year. People buying a Prescott CPU then finding out this damn thing runs very hot.

    Here's my recommendations:

    1. Upgrade your case fans to 120mm silent (i recommend Akasa) for front intake and rear exhaust to create a larger airflow inside your case.
    2. Use Artic Silver 5, only put a little on in the centre like redneckrob explains below.
    3. Buy a better CPU cooler (there's loads around, but make sure they are good. I used the Gigabyte Rocket 3d Pro, but they have much better ones now).
    4. If you want more cooling, make a CPU -duct in the side of your case blowing cool air straight onto your cpu cooler
    5. strap all your cables to increase airflow
    6. if still not happy, "make" additional intake/exhaust fanholes in your case at the right places to improve internal airflow.

    I think you should take these temp guidelines:

    1. Internal case temp below 40 is ok.
    2. CPU max load should not rise above 70. Max is 80 i believe, but this is not good for your CPU's lifetime...
    3. I think a good cooled Prescott CPU will not rise above 60 under heavy load.

    hope this all helps,
     
  13. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Have a look at the thermalright xp-90 and 120 form thermalright,they are tested and proven,but the new generation of heatpipes are flooding onto the market,I dont think that helicoil heatsink is worth $50,looks like something someone made at the end of metal shop.

    BTW guys what made you decide to go for a p4?,those of you who have just built your comps. :confused:
     
  14. scope

    scope Private E-2

    i went for a p4 because i wanted to see what they were like, i always had amd but i never knew about the heat probs in the prescotts, never looked into it enough :(
     
  15. moe07728

    moe07728 Private E-2

    I got an AMD Athlon 2200+,a Biostar M7VIG motherboard and a 400w psu and the cpu idles at 60C with the stock heatsink, artic silver 5, open side of case, and a case fan all in an open area. I tried bundling the wires and I even bought a new pure copper Thermaltake Slim Volcano 10+ heatsink + fan (w/ thermal pad) and theres no difference then before. What options do I have if I don't want to fork out the $ for water cooling, and I doubt anything over a 70x70mm heatsink (which may not fit either) will fit on my motherboard?
     
  16. Dr_Evil

    Dr_Evil Private E-2

    Reason i went for an Intel CPU is that I have experienced a lot of crashes with my AMD cpu's in the past and last summer my AMD cpu and mobo died on me, so i figured go back with Intel. I did not know about the Prescott heat problems, i would have bought a Northwood P4 if i had known this....

    The bright side is that my pc has not crashed on me once since i have the Intel cpu....
     
  17. Olley

    Olley Sergeant

    i know many people like bitching about the heat "problems" of the prescott chip, but since the prescott can take the heat, its not really a problem, is it?

    all you need is a decent heatsink with a decent fan.. that is not asking too much when getting a new generation chip, which implies that somethings will have to be different
     
  18. Dr_Evil

    Dr_Evil Private E-2

    Hey Ollie,

    when i installed my new cpu and stock intel cooler on my motherboard, temps were running up to 75 C !!! Surely that can't be healthy for the processor and motherboard areas close to the cpu... I read somewhere the prescott has an auto-shutdown function that will work on 80C, to prevent further damage to the processor, I think running over 70C will decrease the lifetime.

    So, for someone who buys this standard setup and doesnt do anything about the heat problems (or is unaware of it being a problem), it sure can be trouble...

    So really, being aware and communicating about it is a good thing, and not "bitching" I think.

    Also, there's a bit more to it than just installing a new cpu cooler. Just read previous posts about related issues.
     
  19. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Yeh getting that heat away from the cpu is one thing it then gets dumped inside your case,if your fans arnt set up properly it will be fucused in a hotspot some where inside the case,possibly damaging something else.

    Its no small amount of heat either,try holding your hand on a 100 watt lightbulb,thats the kind of heat were talking about. :confused:
     

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