i cant find the multiplier

i've been dabling a little with ocing and i can't find the multiplier in the BIOS ... i can change the FSB easily (more easy than i thought it was going to be) ... and this article i found here http://www.hytekcomputer.com/Articles/Overclocking101/3.shtml says you can also do it with dip switches and jumpers ... but i'm not sure exactly how to do that

i have a socket 370 celeron 1.4 ghz PC133 SDRAM This Motherboard

I've seen stats on sites that have a similar rig going at over 1.9ghz but i've only gotten it up to 1.5ghz ... but maybe that's the fastest it can go who knows

 

i am also having the same problem, i can't seem to find the multiplier. i heard you had to get past something or something.

 

Neather can I.

I have been doing some reading saying that most chips are locked and the multiplier can not be changed. I have read some ways to unlock the cpu but i dont know which cpus it can be done to.

A good source of info is www.overclockers.com

Check out stickys in the forums. Very informational.



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unlocking the multiplier ive heard may require soldering on the processor. not cool. there might be other ways though...

 

I think that is modding the L bridges. I think..Um that would also void your warentee, so not a good idea.

I have found a pin trick that takes a small wire and wraps it around 2 pins shorting them, unlocking the multiplier. Im not sure if it works with newer cpus, or if it even works at all?

It is susposed to not leave any evidence of modding on the cpu so if you fry it the cpu could still be under warentee.

I have not tried it, and i dont think i am going to. There is something about sticking metal where doesnt belong, that bothers me.



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yea ... i read somewhere that only AMD chips have unlocked multipliers ... so i guess im kinna screwed ... i will check out that website you gave overcooked ... thnx ... if anyone else has managed to oc their intel cpu via the multiplier i would love to hear from ya

 

this would have been an edit but 3 min are up so without further ado ... i've heard a trick to lowering the multiplier in order to increase the speed of the FSB ... the max my mobo can do is 255 ... so if lowering(or raising) it is possible im wondering if there is any truth behind it or if it is even useful

 

Ohh stop that your not stupid.

This is what i know.

The multiplier is something that is multiplied against your FSB to give you your clock speed. I think?

Thats all i know...so know looks whose stupid. I plan on messing with mine, and im not even 50% sure what it does!



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i think that's correct cause my FSB is 104 and my multiplier is 14 so if you are to do the math you get 1456mhz (up from an original 1400[14x100]) ... it's my understanding that it is the number of transistors in the CPU *i think* so that would explain why soldering and using pins would be neccessary ... at any rate i'm pretty sure it's the number of something that's inside the CPU ... i don't really know for sure so don't bet your life savings on that

 

I have an amd and I can't figure out how to get to the multiplier. Is it in the Bios ? where can I find it?

 

ive never used an AMD chip ... nor have I ever changed a multiplier ... i kinna consider myself a n00b when it comes to ocing

 

the only way i know of is the L2 trick, which I have blown a couple of cpu up by doing it as you can see

 

you guys are killing me.

if you don't know what you are doing, you are setting yourself up to kill your system.

overclocking fundamentals.
http://www.modthebox.com/overclock101.shtml

 

thanks for that link acejones

 

There are quite a few other things you need to know before you start cranking things up. Like Ace stated, you're just settin' yourselves up for many many hours of hair pullin', followed closely by alot of crying.

 

i figure if it's got anything to do with soldering ... i'm not gonna bother ... if the only thing i have to worry about is heat on ocing the FSB i have a long way to go before it gets anywhere near the point where it gets hot enough to fry

 

Dont worry Ace!
I dont plan on going past raising my FSB a little, untill i spend at least a couple of weeks reading and very slowly trying things out.

Thanks for that link also.



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Its never any soldering, the worst that you can do is to put either a pencil line (really old Athlons) or a bit of conductive paint (slightly newer Athlons). But the current Athlon XP's you CANNOT unlock the multiplier in any way whatsoever.

Oh and another thing... usually the bottleneck on a non-overclocked system when pushing the FSB is the memory, not the CPU

 

You have that right. The farthest i can get mine to go is 143 with the PC2100.
Ive seen people get there 2400s into the 2.4 and 2.5GHZ with very good cooling, and very good memory. Of coarse they have volt mods, which im not going to even try to get into.



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ok ... so i dont know what the multiplier is clue me in

but i have PC133 SDRAM ... im assuming that's running at 133MHz ... if I have a 100MHz FSB would that mean the most i could oc it is to 133MHz before I'd be uselessly ocing my FSB? I'm guessing I'm missing something from the equation ... I realize that other devices might be a factor but in this '?' I'm really referring only to RAM

 

first to my first post: i don't speak english, if i write sonething bad
my first port: someone has an hp pavilion 513? (i don't know but may be thats only whit this motherboard/BIOS), i found that if you press F1 + F11 + F9 (to enter the setup) some "hidden" options will be shown: system/case low/high voltage control, cpu multiplier, apic support, str (suspend to ram) support, etc.......

PD. im new at overclocking too