Impossible To Update From Win 10 1709 To New Spring Update 1803...

Discussion in 'Software' started by p060477, May 20, 2018.

  1. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    ..it has been since 1 month..not so easier it seems..
    :(
     
  2. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    If you look up Hyper-V you could set up a virtual drive, and try it from there- I just used similar virtual machine - (virtual box)and it loaded easily-
     
  3. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    i've VB portable too..but i want the new update 1803 work for my NON virtual machine..
    :(
     
  4. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    If you still want to have a go - then read this n-going thread at majorgeeks, and decide for yourself-
    https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/windows-10-update-now-no-access.318733/#post-2015667
    It may give you a chance............
    This is the main part you may want to see

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    Let me start by saying that beckylousiana's post that list out the options available to many of us affected by the bad Windows 10 update are exactly those that I encountered with my husband's laptop. There are two methods to fix this update problem that are recommended by Avast and Microsoft: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...a-choose/8ff0d933-8819-4945-9f0c-17ac854400e2. The first tells you to do a rollback, the second suggests an in-place upgrade. Both stink if you can't reach the command prompt, which I couldn't because I was only offered the suggestion of logging into my account which wouldn't accept the password, despite the fact that it was correct.
    Now the steps that I followed that ultimately end up working (yay!). I started using their steps until they didn't work anymore.

    From "them" - To restore your system, you will need:
    • A blank USB drive with at least 8 GB of disk space
    • Another working Windows PC that you can use briefly (for example, a 2nd computer in your home, a friend’s computer, or one at a library or print shop)
    1. On a working PC, go to the Microsoft software download website.
    2. Download the media creation tool and then run it. (be sure to format the USB drive first or this will fail, and be prepared for this to take awhile)
    3. Select Create installation media for another PC.
    4. Choose a language, edition, and architecture (64-bit or 32-bit). (if you have a newer laptop it's probably 64 bit)
    5. Follow the steps to create installation media on your USB drive, and then select Finish.
    6. Now from here on out this is what I did: Get your wrecked laptop to the Choose An Option screen then choose "Use a device"
    7. On the next screen I chose EFI USB Device
    8. It then got my USB blinking and popped up a window saying "It looks like you started an upgrade and booted from installation media. if you want to continue with the upgrade, remove the media from your PC and click Yes. if you want to perform a clean installation instead click NO."
    9. I chose No and it got me to a Windows popup asking for language, time & currency, & keyboard method. I clicked Next and the next window showed "Install now." Repair your computer is an option at the bottom, but it just goes to those wonderful options that we've all been seeing that don't work so don't bother pressing that.
    10. I pressed Install Now and it wanted to know where to install. I chose the first, highlighted, partition option.
    11. At this point it started rolling. I may have had something asking if I wanted to overwrite or upgrade or something. There was an option to either upgrade or to do a custom installation. I THINK I did the custom installation. All files were saved to OneDrive in the first place, so we weren't worried about losing stuff.
    12. Be ready with a new Windows password. We went to a functioning computer and did the "forgot password" link for Windows so that we would be confident that we were using the right password.
    13. After installation Cortana appeared with her slew of questions and at this point you will need to log into Windows. This is where it pays to be ready with the password because we ran out to get a new one and then the computer went black aside from the pointer. I had to pull the power plug while holding the power button to totally shut down (just holding the button until shut down still produced the same black screen upon startup). After the "real" power down it returned back to Cortana when it restarted.
    I may be a little off on those bottom 4 or so steps, but basically you are using your flash drive to install Windows again. You'll be wiping everything but at least it gets working again. To be honest, I was very surprised that using the USB actually worked.

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  5. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    i really do NOT want to loose all the sw and progs installed on my pc since 3 years..
    :(
     
  6. muymalestado

    muymalestado Private First Class

    Exact same problem occurred here 12 days ago. Tried and tried ... Using the scenarios whose instructions say to get another PC to help and a new, fresh, blank USB stick > 6 or 8 GB (I got 32 GB). Get Microsoft Creators Tool onto that USB stick. On it is Windows.ISO - Disk Image File - size reported 3,637,952 KB dated 05/25/2018. In that file(folder) is a setup.exe. Mine ran for nearly 3 hours. The result was Win10 almost as I have known it since the big convert from WinXP. Desktop, taskbar, start menu + other odds & sods needed to be re-built. More will be found I expect. All(?) files and all(?) programs seem to be operable. Including MajorGeeks with saved ID and password.

    The question remains, as raised in searching for the solution above, has an anti-virus caused this? Is Microsoft Genuine advantage anti-virus really up to protecting my admittedly amateurish endeavours?
     
  7. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    So what version did you end up with? (Type winver in command prompt/powershell)
     
  8. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    i really do NOT have another pc..
    no antivirus installed too
    and i really do not want to loose my sw n progs dl for 3 years..
    this is a real nightmare
    :(
     
  9. muymalestado

    muymalestado Private First Class

    It IS a nightmare. Seems to affect many users. I ended up with Win10 ver 1803 (OS Build 17134.1). Along the way I disabled my paid-for Avast anti-virus. I suppose I shall have to reinstate that. I just wonder whether Windows Defender is worth anything, or is best forgotten about.
     
  10. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    but you have solved it..
    i repeat have NO antivirus ..but impossible for me to update..
    :(
     
  11. muymalestado

    muymalestado Private First Class

    p060477 I can only say that even after days of failing to get this PC running Win10 again I started once more to follow the step-by-step instructions to get the Creators Tool loaded onto the USB stick as Windows.ISO. Then run the setup.exe located in Windows.iso. At last, it all worked. That means two messages: 1. even after several failures a very good working version of Win10 was installed, and 2. I guess even with my mistakes trying again worked in the end.

    It was required to get into BIOS and change the boot order to USB drive first. Also to, in my case, hit F12 at startup to change boot order to USB first. I guess these should be returned to normal boot order in good time.

    There are several sites with a similar set of instructions - try post #3 in this thread which points to tenforums. One can always rely upon Brink for accurate, understandable tutorials!
     
  12. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    but you have lost all yr sw and progs installed haven't you?
     
  13. muymalestado

    muymalestado Private First Class

    p060477 I don't understand your attitude - do not be so negative. I stated that I did not lose data or programs, that I did lose Taskbar, Desktop and other settings. "SETTINGS". Not data. Not programs. Why are you posting? My experience stated here is that even after several failures if I kept following widely available instructions I did succeed in bringing a good PC back into use. Are you looking for blood on the screen? I can only APPLAUD contributors here and elsewhere who help people like you and me who find ourselves in trouble! Thanks to MajorGeeks and others!
     
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  14. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    ..maybe there is a lot of MISUNDERSTANDING..:
    "I can only APPLAUD contributors here and elsewhere who help people like you and me who find ourselves in trouble! Thanks to MajorGeeks and others!"..:
    this is absolutely MY REAL OPINION
     
  15. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    p060477- We can all understand your frustration, and we do realize that you understand that we do our best to help, but you can only look through all posts on 1803 update, and try to follow any steps that make sense to you, if you feel you must have the update.
    From what I have seen, the most successful have been using the download to usb with Microsoft's Media creation tool.
    You will have seen some of the drawbacks, as described by others , and some of those successful with the update.
    If you download Balarc Advisor - http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/belarc_advisor.html
    You can find all the certificate numbers of all your software that you have installed, and save these and/or the file/copy off to usb, or, dvd, for use when updating- in case of problems - same with any data you want, to ensure you can get to it (If all goes well, you should find them in Windows old folder, after update)
    If you do not have the setup disks for those programs, then you will have difficulty.
    Good luck.
     
  16. p060477

    p060477 Private First Class

    hi
    thxs again
    now something seems changed:
    first i re-have the 1803 update build in my win update center
    second at the end of the long updating process i finally got an error id:
    0xc1900101
    what you think..?
     
  17. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

  18. Earthling

    Earthling Interplanetary Geek

    Have you created a system image of 1709, in case your efforts to upgrade end up with damaging what you have at present?
     
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  19. baklogic

    baklogic The Tinkerer

    All those links show what I feel is a bad, unfinished update, that should not be given to all at present.
    Unless the person can do all those things described, and understands sufficiently ,then my personal view, is to stop updating to W10 1803, for a couple of months- I believe Microsoft need to do more about it, and take not that not everyone is a geek, and they are creating a lot of bad feeling with many usually fervent Windows fans.
    Definitely need a backup -
     

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