Installing win2k or xp on ancient desktop

I have a PII intels which fried its processor, I replaced with a PIII intel & it worked. So I'd say its a PII motherboard with PIII processor. Just figured how to load 98, win2k & xp wont load. At the CD-setup stage where its formatted into NTFS and loaded instalation files after restarting, displays at bottom of blue screen 'setup is startung windows' & hangs, terribly overheating the processor from there on. HDD is 8gb master 6gb slave dvdwr >1024 Trident VGA 327mb (128+128+32) RAM. The actual motherboard brand remains unknown, case labeled NUN with image of "Fountain of Knowledge". Any Ideas will be highly appreciated. Complex instructions will do just as fine.

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Wang Laboratories PI , will check the details...

 

I would say you answered your own question,as it fried your P2, I would look at these things.
1/ Did windows 98 load, and could you run it?
If so load Everest 220, and get more information on your motherboard, and see if there is a bios update for it, to run a P111- If there is no bios update, the risk of frying it is very high.
http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
2/ I usually use artic silver ceramic paste to seat the heatsink, as it helps lower its operating temperature- have you checked - only a minimal amout of paste (like a large teardrop, and ensure it is evenly spread with something like an old credit card-no fingers), and was it wiped clean, before applying new compound?
3/ Does the fan on the heatsink operate as soon as you start up, and keep going all the time ?
4/ Being an old motherboard, I would check the airflow through the computer- a front fan will blow more cold air in, and , say a 100mm fan at the rear to extract hot air.

I t should run XP o.k, with the ram installed, even though the hard drives are small.
Good luck
:cool

 

I currently have an older IBM machine with a 728MHz P3 CPU and the same amount of RAM you do.
It has XP Home and works fine, if slowly because of the low RAM amount.

 

I used to have a Pentium II computer I bought new in 1997. I was able to install Windows 2000 on it.

 

Does the CPU cooling fan work? Is the heat sink clogged with dust, etc? My laptop shut down on me recently due to overheating. I had to clean the heat sink with compressed air to restore proper airflow.

 

The PII processor fried with the previous owner - faulty cpu fan. The PIII processor comes with an over-sized silver fanless heatsink, I still got it a fan, and another for chassis... The cause of the heating must be system processes at that instance. 98 runs just fine, though its pretty much useless since it cant load MetaTrader4 or any video player that plays most codecs.

Will try Everest and the BIOS stunt right now, then tell you what happens.

 

I did the Everest report - my motherboard chipset is Intel 82440LX/EX, manufacturer/motherboard name unknown, Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG last update in 1998! Been searching for its download and upgrade since, cant find it. All suggestions are highly welcome.

 

Re: Installing win2k or xp on ancient desktop - BIOS upgrade

:confused My motherboard BIOS ID is; 10/08/1998-i440LX-W977TF-2A69JSMBC-00.

Ive been allover at wims.com and thats a great site, but couldn't find my exact ID. between three company names, & the intels page lacks my number. If Award made the softs for all those boards, there ought to be some equivalence between them, or did they make a different software version for each manufacturer?


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Google will display the right page immediately after you give up, geek :cry

 

Funnily enough I have just referred someone else to Intel's checker
Try this , and let it look and find intel drivers.
http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm

 

I've just done the preliminaries on that, but realize the P2 cant load java in 98? The java download in this site wont run on 98 either. The updater wont scan without it, and wont work on another PC? Still trying. I even did the customer support there, waiting for their ping back. Just wondering, if this updater searches for and updates chipset drivers, is it the same as doing the BIOS? Thanx for continued effort.

 

The Bios is different - you need to see the Everest report, and it usually tells you if its phoenix, or whatever, and although it is possible to follow Everest's link- it will cost you that way, but it has to be the right bios update, or, it can finish of the motherboard- so caution there check and let us know what Everest says.
Windows 98 can find problems like the Java one- It could be worth you starting a new thread, titled Windows 98 and Java, or something like that, and there are W98 enthusiasts that keep it working with umpteen methods of keeping it workable.

 

Haven't been around, had shelved the project.

My everest report shows the mobo id as:10/08/1998-i440LX- W977TF-2A69JSMBC- 00. The bios version is:Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG, SP-P2LXB AT VER:A.3.
The full report is attached.

I crawled everywhere on the net, looks like its always for sale? Anyone that can find a really free archive with this update?

 

Well it looks like a superpower motherboard,and this is all I could find- if you want to chance it, its your move-
The award flash program will give you a file to download- I can't be sure- your choice.
http://www.sceusa.com/6xv133.htm
OEM of Superpower SP-P2LXB v.A2
ST-P2LXB
08/04/1998-i440LX-W977TF-2A69JSMBC-00 i440LX OEM of Superpower SP-P2LXB v.A2
SP-P2LXB v.A2 08/04/1998-i440LX-W977TF-2A69JSMBC-00 i440LX ATX AGP 3PCI 2ISA 3DIMM

 

Now that was way fast. What criteria did you use, cant see any part of reference to the mobo or specific bios. Could you if possible give me a second alternative, sort of like two silver bullets? The current bios reads ver.A.3, I know there is A4 and A5, could you locate them? If you can figure out all these so far, I saw some site selling a remedy for a botched flashing, sort of reprogram the bios chip back from useless, maybe you know that too? Thanx a mil.

 

Okay, given your direction there I got the free download, google 6xv133bios update, go with the Russian and trust your gut for the download button. Absolutely free a4. I'm getting to it right now. Now a5, mmh. Thanx again.


[www].nix.ru/download_drivers_bios_firmware_manual.html?driver...

 

Didn't work, goes upto saving old file, then big error message saying bios product number(s) are not the same, bios not for mobo? 6xv133a4.zip: I think the problem lies with the xv part instead of xb, changing the name wont do. It's 5am local, will continue search tomorrow.

 

This may be way off base but I used to have problems once in a while installing Win2k or XP onto systems meant for 98 & ME. I would either get errors copying files or the hang at setup start. The only thing I could do to get around it quite often was to turn off caching in the bios. It made the install go very slow but after the install I turned caching back on and all was well. I usually took out all the sticks of RAM but one, and only the video card installed. Installed sound card etc after, but the processor overheating issue is what leads me believe this may be way off base.

 

Guess tomorrow is already today...never dozed, it got too sweet...

I found the A.5 bios update in some Gothic station: turns out the west has such piece of info on sale, while guys in Russia have A.4 free, guys in far east have A5. No wonder their tech is scaling heights, whats with open-source. Follow basic web-page logic to get there even though the lang doesn't click. Find ALL bios & drivers with the A5.

The Russian station, A4 free I posted back there. Here is the A5 location;
[www]drivers.mydrivers.com/drivers/3-1264-SuperPower-SP-P2LXB-BIOS-A.5/

The error problem was for trying to play the zip file: unzip in the other pc or work with winzip/rar in w98. Make bootable w98 floppy, throw in amdflash.exe & the bios .bin, gets it in in under two minutes.

W2k & WXP still wont load with the new bios, but that was a priceless eyeopener. Looks like you arent off-base at all, with the new bios the processor is cool like that even when windows setup hangs for quite long. I'm re-reading your post now...

 

Looks like holiday had some useful information there, as the processor is now running cool.
I am pleased that the links I found for the superpower site, gave you a starting point- and you seem to have done well from there.
the Everest report gave the clues, although a bit vague.
Have you tried using a windows 98se startup disk, and then start with cd rom support ?

 

Yes the links helped, mainly by redirecting my google search from the I.D.'s in the everest report to the actual filenames.zip. I assume the startup disk would be a bootfloppy of sorts, then do I hit it with W98 setup disk or WXP?

Here's where Ive gotten so far. I stripped down excess hardware and pretty much disabled everything in bios. WXP setup passes copying files and reboots, goes up until its almost showing the '39mins remaining' screen, only it now brings a blue-screen error message for files like vga64k and frame.something. I switched vga cards, even turned back bios to defaults, video caches back on and upped RAM. The frame wont load. Im thinking its some bios setting or the other that is needed?

PS: the error involves the 'device drivers [getting] caught in an infinite loop'

 

You leave xp disk in the drive and it shoud then choose with cdrom support - start loading XP.
tHE 39 MINUTE STICK POSITION IS COMMON- JUST RESTART AND KEEP TRYING.
It might well be a driver issue that the motherboard is throwing up, but usually XP will load a driver as a temp

 

Scouting around I find that it is your video cards,according to microsoft- Has the motherboard got on board video?- if it has remove the graphics card, and connect to on- board video, and load XP, then get updated drivers for the video cards (if available)and then shut down- remove plug, pres stsrt button to release residual electricity,and replace graphics card, and windows should then load, and you can install updated video drivers , then .
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/293078

 

I did the bootdisk thing with W2K, hangs at just around the same stage. No onboard video, comes with a trident videocard which doesnt use the VGA slot, I have another real VGA card to troubleshoot with. Yes its the video firmwares / drivers. I came across a file 'Driver Bios SP-6xv133 firmwares A4 DOS' but wont download at 'nodevice.com'. Searching for alternative location. There is an A3 and A5 file for the same, guess I'll be stuck with the A5. Its exactly what is remaining, the file will run in DOS & that will be great.

You sure there isnt a way to re-program a chip whose bios update goes bad? I mean, just for the sake of knowing. Thanx for the help.

 

We are into the deep her, I have never(fingers crossed I never had a bad bios flash) but I keep these linksin my archive- even though I have never had to test them.

On a pc,So this is for helpful information, only

using the clear cmosjumper on the board per the user manual. It will
set it back to BIOS defaults, and sometimes this can fix issues after a BIOS
flash

Good description,here
http://www.technibble.com/how-to-recover-from-a-bad-bios-update/

　
http://www.wimsbios.com/faq/howtorecoveracorruptbios.jsp
http://www.arlabs.com/bioskit.htm
Phoenix crisis copy at : http://mods.myftp.org/Tools/CrisDisk_and_Pen_Drive_Recovery.rar

 

Is this the one ?
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nix.ru%2fdownload_drivers_bios_firmware_manual.html%3fdriver_id%3d261

The tab

Скачать драйвер
will download a zip file (I tried that)

 

No. That is the Bios for the mobo, version A4. I got the Bios file lxb-A5.zip that is the A5 version. There is the firmware for respective Bios. In one site I saw it being 'Driver Bios SP-6xv133 firmwares A4 DOS' and '...A5 DOS', but cant get them. Still crawling the web for a site with the actual free download, if I keep it up two days I might just be able to read one of the oriental languages.

Those are great links, I'm tempted to mess up just to learn it practically. Don't loose your archive. Thanx.

PS; I just landed the vga64k.dll & I'm dusting it to see if I get three wishes...

 

Have you got the microsoft translater installed- if so,highlight and right click the word and it will translate- above that one it translates
support OC ;DOS

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/tools/