Internet Explorer Hole Again !!!

Discussion in 'Software' started by Clark_Kent, Jan 30, 2004.

  1. Clark_Kent

    Clark_Kent MajorGeek

    A recently discovered security hole in Internet Explorer 6, and possibly earlier versions as well, means that users can easily be fooled into downloading what appear to be safe files but could in fact be anything at all.

    Combine that vulnerability with an earlier one which has not been fixed, whereby a user can be similarly fooled into going to a website which looks genuine but isn't, and you've got a massive flaw leaving many totally exposed.

    Microsoft failed to add suitable patches for the vulnerabilities in its January updates and many believe that the holes cannot be fixed. In other words, at any time you could be visiting a spoof site and downloading spoof files without ever knowing.

    Theres a test here to see if your browser is vulnerable

    http://www.secunia.com/internet_explorer_address_bar_spoofing_test/

    I try and i fail CRAP!!!
     
  2. Endi

    Endi Lt. Links

    Darn I failed too. :mad:
     
  3. Kodo

    Kodo SNATCHSQUATCH

    doesn't work in MyIE2
     
  4. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Same with me Kodo.

    BTW, Panda caught the file each time, regardless of browser.

    So while MyIE gives the access denied or whatever message accessing the site, the file download is still there.

    All hail Panda!!

    :p
     
  5. Endi

    Endi Lt. Links


    whadaya mean. I have panda. Mine did not catch it. ITs been updated today.??
     
  6. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Lookie here:
     
  7. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    I don't understand, Adrynalyne. I clicked the link in the first post above, then I clciked the test link (and got an address link that was clearly bad, not a real microsoft addy) in Firebird. Then I held my pointer over the test link and it showed a black bar next to the phony site address, so I knew there was a problem.

    That means Firebird .7 passes the test.

    Now, what's this about a FILE that Panda catches (sometimes?)? I didn't see any downloads anywhere.

    Pls xpln.
     
  8. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Look at the original post my friend.

    Clark_Kent is describing two exploits.

    Then he goes on two describe combinng this exploit with one that sppofs the URL.

    Imagine the chaos that could ensue, if someone was malicious enough to do it.

    MyIE doesnt respond to the URL spoof, but falls flat on its face for the file download(it does indeed download).

    IE fails altogether.
     
  9. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Thats how I understand it anyway.


    Either that, or Panda is simply finding the spoof and reporting it.

    But I doubt it, because MyIE won't open the site at all, and denies access.

    Yet the file STILL gets downloaded, even though you never visited.
     
  10. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    I'm sorry, I must be either tired or just dense tonight. I re-read the original post at the top of this page, and there's no link to a file download, even though he speaks of a file download flaw. I've never seen a link to a phony file anywhere.

    Then you speak of a file that you downloaded, and Panda caught the virus-spoof in it.

    "...falls flat on its face for the file download (it does indeed download)"
    WHAT file download? What URL has the file that Panda caught (so we can see whether OUR AV catches it)?

    (My apologies if this is really dumb.)
     
  11. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    The file gets downloaded automatically by clicking the URL.

    As I was saying Panda may simply be addressing that it is catching a spoof in progress, but it still doesn't explain why MyIE denies access and yet the file stil downloads.

    Actually, I guess that file is just a copy of the site in Temporary Internet Files.

    I guess MyIE still has a flaw of sorts.

    Still have to tip your hat to Panda for catching it.

    Our Corporate NAV didnt.

    Forgive me for the confusion i caused.
     
  12. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Me, too. I think I understand now that you were just referring to the html page being loaded into the cache. Nothing went off on my machine either, so FB tells all but loads anyway.
     
  13. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Forgive me, what does FB stand for?
     
  14. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    You missed the rest of my posts Star.

    And I am dsoublechecking right now over Remopte Desktop, but I am pretty sure I will get the alert from panda that file was downloaded to Temporary Internet Files. Its simply a copy of the site, and Panda pulls up the exploit.



    I had to update MyIE first however, so it will be a few minutes.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 30, 2004
  15. Endi

    Endi Lt. Links


    I think he meant Firebird (maybe)
     
  16. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Thanks.


    *Cough* I have to reinstall MyIE2 again.


    MG has an outdated version of MyiE for download.

    Gonna be a few more minutes.
     
  17. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    *Pokes Star17 in the shoulder*

    I told you...

    :p:D:p
     
  18. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Ok thats weird. Updated MyIE2.

    I can get to the website.

    It shows up as www.microsoft.com

    Panda went silent.

    EDIT: it actually shows what BillH posted.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 30, 2004
  19. Greyhound

    Greyhound Sergeant

    Ditto, I fail too.!!!
     
  20. billH

    billH Master Sergeant

    Hmmmm . . . wondering about the wording of the test. It says:
    "If only the words microsoft.com appear, then your browser can be spoofed."
    Here's the url it placed in my bar :

    http://www.microsoft.com00@secunia.com/internet_explorer_address_bar_spoofing_test/

    Obviously the words MS.com do appear -- but not just the words MS.com. Also, nothing downloaded or even indicated that something had tried. Unless it was a udp packet that Zone Alarm blocked about that time. SlimBrowser gave no indication of a file being sent.

    So, does this mean I can or cannot be spoofed?

    edit: I followed the above url and it took me back to the test page.
     
  21. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    The file I was referring to is a cached copy of the site. Panda saw the exploit and reported it. Panda downloaded a cached copy even though it denied access.

    I don't think you are going to see any download dialogs ;)

    However, oddly enough, I installed an updated MyIE2 and panda has grown silent, even using IE. Although it might be some weird quirk, I am using my computer through RD, maybe it doesn't properly load the AV after I reboot it. Since the reboots, Panda hasnt given the warning at all.
     
  22. alanc

    alanc MajorGeek

  23. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    mwhaha i love firebird :D
     
  24. waxace

    waxace Private E-2

    The spoof tried to come through but My McAfee picked it right up and deleted it as a Trojan/Virus.
    I tried to force the issue and again McAfee deleted it and in addition, My Zone Alarm refused acess to the site under those conditions.....
    I have quite a bit more than normal protection, but well worth it....
    Three years and no virus/hoax/trojan sucessfully made it through...
    Mabey just lucky and/or have the right protection....


    WAX
     
  25. Endi

    Endi Lt. Links

    I get this with MYIE2

    htt*://www.microsoft.com%00@secunia.com/internet_explorer_address_bar_spoofing_test/


    This is what I got with IE

    htt*://www.microsoft.com

    Although there was no file download dialog with either one :)

    WIth Firebird I get

    htt*://www.microsoft.com%01%00@secunia.com/internet_explorer_address_bar_spoofing_test/


    With opera I get
    htt*://www.microsoft.com%00@secunia.com/internet_explorer_address_bar_spoofing_test/

    + with opera a box opens and states this

    What to use what to use:D:D

    I guess IE failed



    Zone Alarm stayed quiet.
    Panda did not catch it.??


    Opera is the one
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2004
  26. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I give up. Nobody is hearing me.

    There is no download box.

    When I was talking about the file download I was talking about the cached copy going into Temporary Internet Files. I found it odd how MyIE denied me access (an older version), yet still downloaded a cached copy.

    Panda picked it up as an exploit, but no longer does.

    :rolleyes:
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 31, 2004
  27. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I think you are right.

    MyIE failed that test for me (latest version).
     
  28. Endi

    Endi Lt. Links


    Dont give up on us yet I hear you and understand you loud and clear :)
     
  29. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I'm guessing those are industrial strength apps ;)

    I wonder if there are any apps that are available that can do the same.

    Either that or I will need to switch browsers ;)
     
  30. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Its spotty for me. No amount of money would make me use Mcaffee however.

    Panda saw it as an exploit, as you can see from my screenshot, but no longer.

    Not sure why it stopped working.
     
  31. SportsNut

    SportsNut Corporal

    I went into my D-link setup and and enabled url filtering and added "%01" "%00" "@" then applied the settings

    And it still opens the page.

    Any ideas why it's not working?
     
  32. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    [Morning, lads. Good to see that everything is all straightened out now, and everybody understands the full set of problems, and everybody has plans to deal with everything. Guess you've got everything covered.]
    :p :p :p

    Adryn,

    I'm betting that you didn't remember to completely empty the Cache of MyIE2 between versions, and the fact that the old, neutralized page record (html copy) is still IN there would mebbe keep a new copy from getting in --- for Panda to react to. (????)
    "I installed an updated MyIE2 and panda has grown silent, even using IE."

    Possibility? Don't they BOTH use TIFs as the Cache folder?
     
  33. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I thought that might be the case, and I deleted TIF.

    Neither browser will cause Panda to panic, so to speak, even after doing that.

    Maybe if I up the heuristic settings on Panda, hmm...
     
  34. Wisewiz

    Wisewiz Apprentice's Sorcerer

    Hmmm.
    <Goes for more coffee and thinks deep thoughts ...>
     
  35. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Panda still doesnt catch it.

    I'm at a loss to whats going on.

    I am going to reinstall Panda when I get home.
     

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