Issues with so will upgrade CPU

Hi everyone.

Just a quick question. My computer currently has this cpu (info from Everest)... AMD Athlon XP, 1350 MHz (13.5 x 100) 1500+ with 256 MB memory (DDR SDRAM). I would also like to upgrade the memory if needed. Sometimes games cause the computer to restart and such so I figured better to upgrade now before I have a problem and no money to fix it.

 

To best help you with an Upgrade, we need to know all your specs,
Brand/Model PC, or if custom built what exact brand/model MOBO plus your other hardware.

How much money ya willing to spend?
What do you use this system for?

If your running XP another 256mb or more mem will help.
Your PC restarting that could be alot of things, My first thought what Video card are ya running? & what brand & size PSU do ya have?

 

Ok, here's everything... This computer was custom built... Here's the everest info... Please let me know if there's anything other info you need...

Field Value
Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name SCOOBY-0VCEZ7JC
User Name Scooby

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 1350 MHz (13.5 x 100) 1500+
Motherboard Name MSI KM2M Combo (MS-6738) (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 SDR DIMM, 2 DDR DIMM, Audio, Video)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8375 ProSavageDDR KM266
System Memory 256 MB (PC2700 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award (09/22/03)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X (Microsoft Corporation) (64 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X
Monitor Philips 107S (107S1) [17" CRT] (BZ 29529304)

Multimedia
Audio Adapter VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller

Storage
IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive Maxtor 6Y080L0 (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
Disk Drive FUJITSU MPA3035ATU (3 GB, 5400 RPM, Ultra-ATA/33)
Disk Drive HP psc 2175 USB Device
Optical Drive GENERIC DVD RW 16XMax
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions
C: (NTFS) 78152 MB (44944 MB free)
D: (NTFS) 3055 MB (1491 MB free)
Total Size 79.3 GB (45.3 GB free)

Input
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse HID-compliant mouse

Network
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC (192.168.1.47)
Network Adapter VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter

Peripherals
Printer Adobe PDF
Printer hp psc 2170 series
Printer Quicken PDF Printer
USB1 Controller VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller
USB1 Controller VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller
USB2 Controller VIA USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
USB Device Generic USB Hub
USB Device hp psc 2170 series
USB Device Logitech QuickCam Express #2
USB Device psc 2170 (DOT4USB)
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Human Interface Device
USB Device USB Mass Storage Device
USB Device USB Printing Support


Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 09/22/2003-KM266-8235-6A6LVM4DC-00
Motherboard Name MSI KM2M Combo (MS-6738)

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 200 MHz
Bandwidth 1600 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 267 MHz
Bandwidth 2133 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type VIA V-Link
Bus Width 8-bit
Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 267 MHz
Bandwidth 267 MB/s

Motherboard Physical Info
CPU Sockets/Slots 1 Socket 462
Expansion Slots 3 PCI, 1 AGP
RAM Slots 2 SDR DIMM, 2 DDR DIMM
Integrated Devices Audio, Video
Form Factor Micro ATX
Motherboard Size 240 mm x 240 mm
Motherboard Chipset KM266
Extra Features Fuzzy Logic 4

Motherboard Manufacturer
Company Name Micro-Star International
Product Information http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_list.php
BIOS Download http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_list.php

Field Value
CPU Properties
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 1350 MHz (13.5 x 100) 1500+
CPU Alias Thoroughbred-B
CPU Stepping B0
Instruction Set x86, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)

CPU Physical Info
Package Type 453 Pin PGA
Package Size 4.95 cm x 4.95 cm
Transistors 37.6 million
Process Technology 6Mi, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu
Die Size 84 mm2
Core Voltage 1.50 - 1.65 V
I/O Voltage 1.6 V
Typical Power 44.0 - 64.0 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 48.5 - 74.3 W (depending on clock speed)

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 0 %

Field Value
CPUID Properties
CPUID Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1500+
CPUID Revision 00000681h
Extended CPUID Revision 00000781h
Platform ID CBh (Socket A)
IA CPU Serial Number Unknown
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 0

Instruction Set
64-bit x86 Extension (AMD64, EM64T) Not Supported
Alternate Instruction Set Not Supported
AMD 3DNow! Supported
AMD 3DNow! Professional Supported
AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Supported
AMD Extended MMX Supported
Cyrix Extended MMX Not Supported
IA-64 Not Supported
IA MMX Supported
IA SSE Supported
IA SSE 2 Not Supported
IA SSE 3 Not Supported
CLFLUSH Instruction Not Supported
CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG16B Instruction Not Supported
Conditional Move Instruction Supported
MONITOR / MWAIT Instruction Not Supported
RDTSCP Instruction Not Supported
SYSCALL / SYSRET Instruction Supported
SYSENTER / SYSEXIT Instruction Supported
VIA FEMMS Instruction Not Supported

Security Features
Advanced Cryptography Engine (ACE) Not Supported
Data Execution Prevention (DEP, NX, EDB) Not Supported
Hardware Random Number Generator (RNG) Not Supported
Montgomery Multiplier & Hash Engine Not Supported
Processor Serial Number (PSN) Not Supported

Power Management Features
Automatic Clock Control Not Supported
Enhanced Halt State (C1E) Not Supported
Enhanced SpeedStep Technology (EIST, ESS) Not Supported
Frequency ID Control Not Supported
LongRun Not Supported
LongRun Table Interface Not Supported
PowerSaver 1.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 2.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 3.0 Not Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control Not Supported
Software Thermal Control Not Supported
Temperature Sensing Diode Supported
Thermal Monitor 1 Not Supported
Thermal Monitor 2 Not Supported
Thermal Monitoring Not Supported
Thermal Trip Not Supported
Voltage ID Control Not Supported

CPUID Features
36-bit Page Size Extension Supported
Address Region Registers (ARR) Not Supported
CPL Qualified Debug Store Not Supported
Debug Trace Store Not Supported
Debugging Extension Supported
Fast Save & Restore Supported
Hyper-Threading Technology (HTT) Not Supported
L1 Context ID Not Supported
Local APIC On Chip Supported
Machine Check Architecture (MCA) Supported
Machine Check Exception (MCE) Supported
Memory Configuration Registers (MCR) Not Supported
Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) Supported
Model Specific Registers (MSR) Supported
Page Attribute Table (PAT) Supported
Page Global Extension Supported
Page Size Extension (PSE) Supported
Pending Break Event Not Supported
Physical Address Extension (PAE) Supported
Secure Virtual Machine Extensions (Pacifica) Not Supported
Self-Snoop Not Supported
Time Stamp Counter (TSC) Supported
Virtual Machine Extensions (Vanderpool) Not Supported
Virtual Mode Extension Supported

CPUID Registers (CPU #1)
CPUID 00000000 00000001-68747541-444D4163-69746E65
CPUID 00000001 00000681-00000000-00000000-0383FBFF
CPUID 80000000 80000008-68747541-444D4163-69746E65
CPUID 80000001 00000781-00000000-00000000-C1C3FBFF
CPUID 80000002 20444D41-6C687441-74286E6F-5820296D
CPUID 80000003 35312050-002B3030-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000004 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000005 0408FF08-FF20FF10-40020140-40020140
CPUID 80000006 00000000-41004100-01008140-00000000
CPUID 80000007 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000001
CPUID 80000008 00002022-00000000-00000000-00000000

MSR Registers
MSR C0010015 0000-0000-050B-1008

Field Value
Physical Memory
Total 255 MB
Used 186 MB
Free 68 MB
Utilization 73 %

Swap Space
Total 620 MB
Used 250 MB
Free 369 MB
Utilization 40 %

Virtual Memory
Total 875 MB
Used 437 MB
Free 438 MB
Utilization 50 %

Physical Address Extension (PAE)
Supported by Operating System Yes
Supported by CPU Yes
Active No

Problems & Suggestions
Suggestion Install more system memory to improve applications performance.

 

Thats enough info
You can certainly do alot of upgrading.
How much Money ya got ?
At some point Money would be better spent on new system?

Memory add another 256
Then consider CPU/MOBO & Video card but this where I would consider a completely new system.
Your current system uses a socket A cpu the best MOBO for socket A is one that uses Nforce 2 chipset

If I were buying new system today, I'd go Athlon 64 939 CPU family with a Asus or DFI mobo & 7800GT graphics and atleast 1 gig of mem.

 

That would be great but I can't afford to buy a new system. At this point I just need to keep this one going because I'm a full time student with two teens in the home and so, I am sure you can imagine...

 

A good upgrade would definitely include at least another 256Mb stick of RAM. After that, if you are upgrading for games, I would suggest a new video card, followed closely by a new CPU.

First though, you'll have to let us know how much you are willing to spend if you want any specific suggestions.

 

Doesn't anyone think this may be a CPU cooling problem?

 

Certainly could be, or a motherboard problem, or PSU problem.
My advice would be to find out what's the definite cause of the problem before forking out money for a CPU.
If you're on a tight budget the last thing you want to do is replace a component to find the problem's still there.
There are quite a few threads dealing with computers restarting and it may be worth reading them to see if they help with your problem.
good luck mysticscooby!

 

I may be wrong, and someone else please correct me if I am !! But it's my understanding that if an AMD processor overheats, it will shut down the computer, or restart it, to attempt to save the CPU. While a Pentium, will slow it's clock speed down, in an attempt to cool itself.
If I were working on this machine, I'd start by making sure the processors cooling fan was operating, and that the fins of the heatsink wern't clogged up with dust. If that was all ok, I'd pull the sink, and make sure there's good compound under it, and the proper amount.
If a computer is custom built, I take nothing for granted. There ARE places that build customs, that just throw parts together.
I worked on a machine a few months ago with a restating problem. When I pulled the processor heatsink, it had heatsink compound on it. BOY, did it have compound on it !! So much, that it was not just on the slug, but caked all over AROUND the whole chip, and squished around the socket, and onto the motherboard !! It was a "custom" built computer. I've also seen some with what looked like a small dried up scab of compound on them, as well as no compound or factory compound "pad" at all.
I'd concentrate on CPU cooling first. Then Power Supply.
Work the hell out of the processor by gaming on it with the tower cover off, then after a while, CAREFULLY put your finger on the side of the heatsink (being careful to touch ONLY the heatsink), and see if it's blazing hot. But that's ONLY after you check the compound situation. If it's hot, get a larger CPU cooler, and try that out. But remember, if there's issues with compound,the heat may not be getting fully conducted into the heatsink in the first place.

 

Ok, I have replaced both the fan and the CPU (with a larger one) but when I put the new cpu in, the computer won't start. I cleared the CMOS and it still won't start... Hoping someone can help!!!!

 

More info: It's not making the "your fan isn't working right noise", it just turns the fan a little and that's it. Nothing else happens.

 

Does your fan have a 4 pin molex connector (the same power connector that goes into your hard drive and CDrom). Maybe try plugging it straight in there, it should run at full speed. May be a problem with the 3 pin CPU fan power socket.

Either that, or it could simply mean that the CPU is throttling the fan back, as it doesn't require maximum fan cooling.