Laptop running very slow

Discussion in 'Software' started by mquelch, May 7, 2015.

  1. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    Hi,

    I have an older Dell D820 laptop computer with a Windows 7 Ultimate on it with a Intel Core Duo processor. The computer originally came with XP, but I upgraded to Windows 7 a couple years ago. The computer has 4GB of ram, and as far as I can remember it ran at a good speed for an older computer.

    In the last six months or so, the computer is running very slowly that it has become unbearable to use. I ran all of the usual scans for malware but I did not find any, so I posted for some help in the Malware forum and TimW said it was clean.

    I have the power options set to performance and that did not change anything. I am also getting High CPU usage warning, but when I check Task Manager there are no processes that are hogging the cpu.

    I am so frustrated, that I reinstalled Windows 7 with a clean install and the computer is still slow without any other apps installed just bare bones Windows 7.

    Do you have any ideas what could be causing this laptop to run slow

    Thanks
     
  2. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    Ok thanks, I will try it
     
  3. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    I've ran 'Autoruns' and did not find any unusual files running that should not be running. I also did not find anything hogging the CPU or memory usage. So, I decided to go back to the original OS Windows XP professional to see how the computer would run and it ran the way I expected it to. I couldn't download 'Autoruns' because the old IE wouldn't let me.

    Anyhow, I decided to reinstall Windows Vista Ultimate to see how that would run, and it is running Ok but not great. I installed 'Autoruns' and it does not show anything unusual running. Task manager shows the CPU running between 50-75% and physical memory at 25% in idle state.

    So I have a couple of questions. Should I reinstall Windows 7 and see what happens? If I install Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit will I get any benefit over the 32 bit? Will Windows 7 64 bit be any better than the 32 bit for this computer.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  4. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I'd suspect hardware before software because you did a clean install and it is still slow. This computer is from about 2006 so at 9 years old, the hd might be going. That would account for the slow speed.
     
  5. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    I did run a hardware diagnostic test and everything was tested as good. Also I've seen on the Dell forum many users running the D820 in 64 bit mode.
     
  6. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

  7. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    I did check the hardware but I ran CPU-Z and the results are the same as before. The CPU and RAM are Ok, and I guess that means this is limitation of the computer hardware.
     
  8. sexyandy81

    sexyandy81 MajorGeek

    If your computer has 4GB RAM then I would go for windows 7 64Bit as it will recognise all the memory installed but you will need a 64bit CPU.

    Have you tried defragging your hard drive and also checking for bad sectors on your hard drive that could be the cause of the slowness and also make sure the laptop is free from dust inside aswell as this can cause problems too.
     
  9. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Something is amiss. I run Windows 7 Ultimate with a 1.8 GHz Celeron CPU and 3 GB RAM @ 667 MHz.
    What are your Windows Experience Index subscores?
     
  10. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    Yes the machine has 4 GB RAM and that is verified by the BIOS and Windows. I am going to try and install Windows 7 64 bit and see what happens.

    Eldon, Windows Experience Index was 1.5 when I had Vista 32 bit on it. The laptop is an Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7200 (2.00GHz), and theoretically should run without issues but it's not. There are other owners in the Dell forum that are running Vista without a problem with the same configuration.
     
  11. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    mquelch, sometimes common sense needs to prevail. Consider the following:
    My Windows Experience Index is 3.3 with Windows 7 Ultimate, which is low. Yours is 1.5 even though you have a higher spec PC. Save your CPU-Z results as an HTML and post it.
     
  12. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    Here is the CPU-Z file.


    CPU-Z

    Binaries
    CPU-Z version 1.72.0.x64

    Processors
    Number of processors 1
    Number of threads 2

    APICs
    Processor 0
    -- Core 0
    -- Thread 0 0
    -- Core 1
    -- Thread 0 1

    Timers
    ACPI timer 3.580 MHz
    HPET timer 14.318 MHz
    Perf timer 1.951 MHz
    Sys timer 1.000 KHz


    Processors Information
    Processor 1 ID = 0
    Number of cores 2 (max 2)
    Number of threads 2 (max 2)
    Name Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo T7200
    Codename Merom
    Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
    Package (platform ID) Socket 479 mPGA (0x5)
    CPUID 6.F.6
    Extended CPUID 6.F
    Core Stepping B2
    Technology 65 nm
    Core Speed 998.5 MHz
    Multiplier x Bus Speed 6.0 x 166.4 MHz
    Rated Bus speed 665.7 MHz
    Stock frequency 2000 MHz
    Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T, VT-x
    L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    FID/VID Control yes
    FID range 6.0x - 12.0x
    Max VID 1.225 V





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    Northbridge Intel i945PM rev. 03
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    Memory Type DDR2
    Memory Size 4 GBytes
    Channels Dual
    Memory Frequency 332.8 MHz (1:2)
    CAS# latency (CL) 5.0
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    Serial number 453FEC69
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    Serial number 24276A3E
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    Description PCI to PCI Bridge
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    DMI
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    SKU unknown
    family unknown

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    DMI System Enclosure
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    DMI Processor
    manufacturer Intel
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    designation SERIAL1 (internal)
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    DMI Port Connector
    designation USB (internal)
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    designation MONITOR (internal)
    port type Video Port
    connector DB-15 female

    DMI Port Connector
    designation IrDA (internal)
    connector Infrared

    DMI Port Connector
    designation FireWire (internal)
    port type Firewire (IEEE P1394)
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    designation Modem (internal)
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    designation Ethernet (internal)
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  13. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    The only issue I can see is the PC2-5300 (333 MHz) RAM. Buy the fastest DDR2 RAM the motherboard can support.

    PC2-6400 and PC2-8500 are your options. If they are not supported by the motherboard, you either have to live with the slow performance or invest in a new motherboard. The latter will also require a new CPU and RAM.

    FYI Windows 7 32-bit wont be faster as your Windows Experience Index score with Windows Vista 32-bit was 1.5.
     
  14. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    Thanks Eldon, I think I may have to look at getting another computer because this is just too slow to work with. I appreciate your help.
     
  15. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    You're welcome.
    If you do a lot of work on your PC, consider a Desktop. It's cheaper and easier to upgrade. I'm still using the original Tower Case, PSU, Keyboard & Mouse from December 2004 when I bought my PC. In 2005/2006 I added a CD-ReWriter and DVD-ReWriter. And I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows XP Professional on a 10-year old 80 GB HDD... :wave
     
  16. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    I have a desktop but this laptop belongs to my wife. I was just trying to keep it alive.
     
  17. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I had another look at the CPU-Z info and your wife's laptop has hardware specs much higher than my desktop. Which Windows Experience Index subscore is 1.5? This is what detemines the base score. I'm (almost) sure the speed can be improved. Have a look at the snapshot.
     

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  18. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    Yes, the laptop low score is coming from the CPU at 0.6 and I don't understand why.
     
  19. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Your Windows Experience Index was 1.5 when running Vista 32-bit. It's now 0.6? Then there is the answer to your problems. Mine is 3.9 with a 1.8 GHz Celeron CPU.
    Did you use any program to test the performance of the CPU? Then again, it might be a bad decision to do that now. Something is very wrong with the CPU. Try to get a second opinion, or just replace it. And remember the thermal paste!

    BTW If it wasn't for the CPU-related problem, that laptop could run Windows 10.

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-will-your-pc-run-it/2/
     
  20. mquelch

    mquelch Private E-2

    Thanks for your insight into this situation, I was really baffled about it. I think I will just replace the laptop at this point.
     

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