NASA scrubs launch of space shuttle Discovery because of faulty fuel-tank sensor.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Publius, Jul 13, 2005.

  1. Publius

    Publius Sergeant

    Per CNN.com just a minute ago.

    Sorry Star.
     
  2. Publius

    Publius Sergeant

  3. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hey better safe than sorry I'd say..... they have taken a brave step, while in the face of the worlds gaze..... good on em'

    So when will re-vamped launch date be now?
     
  4. Jamiko

    Jamiko Sergeant

    “It will take some time to determine how long we will have to stand down,” NASA spokesman George Diller said.

    Launch officials have at least two more opportunities to launch Discovery this week.

    The next launch date for Discovery opens on the afternoon of July 14, with a second opportunity on July 16. However, should Discovery still remain earthbound after that, pad engineers will have to remove the fuel reactants inside the orbiter. An approaching storm could also prompt launch officials to rollback the orbiter to avoid damage from high winds, NASA officials said, adding that such a situation would cause a longer delay.

    There are still two more weeks in Discovery’s July launch window, which closes on July 31.
     
  5. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    I was just telling someone this morning that I really wished the launch was Saturday so I could watch it live.


    I didn't mean to do it, honest. :D
     
  6. WobblesRArt

    WobblesRArt MajorGeek

    just be glad ya didn't take a day off from work then
     
  7. Sgt. Tibbs

    Sgt. Tibbs Ultra Geek

    You would maybe prefer watching another explosion?
     
  8. Wenchie

    Wenchie I R teh brat

    really, nasa isnt delaying, nasa is making sure it's pilots and crew are safe, and i applaud them for it.
     
  9. Jamiko

    Jamiko Sergeant

    Discovery's mission management team is still meeting to sift through the data from a variety of tests. At an afternoon news briefing, scheduled to start at 2:30 p.m. ET, managers are expected to provide more information about the nature of the sensor glitch — and about the schedule for NASA's first shuttle mission since the catastrophic loss of Columbia more than two years ago.

    If the problem can be fixed quickly, launch could be rescheduled for as early as Saturday — a prospect that looks increasingly unlikely. Even if more extensive troubleshooting is required, NASA might be able to fix things in time for launch later this month. But if the problem lies in the fuel tank rather than the shuttle's circuitry, Discovery might have to be moved back into NASA's Vehicle Assembly Building for more extensive work. That could delay the launch until September.
     
  10. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    What a shame, I bet star will be gutted, but I'm sure they'll work to get that bird flying ASAP! :)
     
  11. NewsFlash

    NewsFlash Corporal

    sorry, out of the loop.....can I ask what is it exactly that Star17 does at NASA?
     
  12. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    Pray load manager?http://forums.majorgeeks.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://forums.majorgeeks.com/images/smilies/redface.gif
    i am wondering if my dream and the fuel sensor problem was some how connectedhttp://forums.majorgeeks.com/images/smilies/eek.gif esphttp://forums.majorgeeks.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
     
  13. Matacumbie

    Matacumbie Rocky Top

    After watching alot of coverage this afternoon I kind of think it might be September now. From what I heard, they were troubleshooting several different things before this came up.

    I hope they can get it going soon. Safely of course.

    I bet Star is working his hiney off, he is really up for this one. Good luck my friend. :)

    Steve
     
  14. AbbySue

    AbbySue MajorGeeks Administrator

    He's a senior level launch integration support specialist. Essentially, he is part of a team that configures various aspects of payload for manned and unmanned rockets to assure proper trajectory and orbital inclination. More often than not, he is also on the launch team for the missions where he's been a part of the payload processing.
     
  15. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    I hope the guys and gals and NASA get the fuel sensor problem sorted out quickly, I want to see them light the candle on that baby, and put it in orbit soon.
     
  16. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5370/yahoorotfl9kt.gif :eek: :p
     
  17. Matacumbie

    Matacumbie Rocky Top

    She knows it's just a malfunction. :eek: :D

    Steve
     
  18. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    It happens to everyone!

    :D
     
  19. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    I have a few spam emails with help in getting stuff up if they help?! ;)

    I have said it earlier in this thread but wish to stress that in the face of some news reports and junk that are critisizing NASA, I wish to say they did the right thing, so fubble to all those who couldnt even launch a firework let alone a rocketship.
     
  20. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Star is in charge of the bungee cords and duct tape. And he's responsible for the number 7 in the launch sequence IIRC. :D


    Good to see you haven't lost your sense of humor Star. If THAT were to happen, I'd know we were in deep trouble. :)
     
  21. Lev

    Lev MajorGeek

    Sheeeesh...and he told me he just put the luggage in the trunk :p
     
  22. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Well, it IS your job to bring home the Bacon. :D But he's not that old. Only about 300 yrs.

    Another one of his that travels well: Prosperity is not without many fears and distastes; and adversity is not without comforts and hopes. NASA knows both halves of that one well. Take care Star. :)
     
  23. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Duct Tape!

    It does hold the universe together?


    or size 7b adjuster mallet :)
     
  24. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    duct tape?

    edit/damn you beat me to it /edit
     
  25. goldfish

    goldfish Lt. Sushi.DC

    How about a nice night out and a box of choccies? Seems to work for most other things... :D
     
  26. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    The rubber bands are all loose. You've got to wind 'em up tight.
     
  27. martinch

    martinch Specialist

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  28. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    So, how many size G engines do you think it will take to put Discovery in orbit?
     
  29. RexNoctis

    RexNoctis Corporal

    30 feet!! Get a good view from there :eek:
     
  30. Matacumbie

    Matacumbie Rocky Top

    I hope you guy's get it going Star, looking forward to the launch.

    Good Luck. :)

    Steve
     
  31. theefool

    theefool Geekified

    That picture above, looks like something I'd see in the 80's.
     
  32. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Great news Star! And thank you. The late-night guy at work is on vacation next week, and I got volunteered to cover 1-10:00 PM all next week. Was somewhat annoyed until now... I can watch it live Tuesday! Woot!

    An auspicious day today: "One small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." Neil Armstrong, July 20, 1969. :)
     
  33. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Please tell me that's tracking northwest. :(
     
  34. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Don't scare me like that. :p

    So where exactly will you be during launch?

    Can you wear something easily identifiable, like Mickey ears or something? :D
     
  35. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    he should wear a majorgeeks.com t-shirt a big green one :D
     
  36. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Can you get me Annette's autograph?

    Top of VAB probably isn't a great idea. They still need you for the "8" in the countdown, don't they?
     
  37. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Extended igniter AND safety gear! OSHA will be so proud!
     
  38. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    So THAT'S how you caught Abby. You're quick on your feet!
     
  39. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Possibly perspective? After losing a bird and a crew, losing a launch date is pretty small stuff. Frustrating, I'm sure, but not catastrophic.
     
  40. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    True that. It's not in the same league, but I've lost friends in simple aircraft crashes, 2 of them I watched the scattered remains of their bird burn on the field not 100 yards from me. We minimize the risks that we can control, accept the risks that are inherent, and continue on. If we didn't do that, we'd still be living in caves.
     
  41. Matacumbie

    Matacumbie Rocky Top

    If I worked for NASA, I would so have a pocket protector with the logo. And, wear it all the time. :D

    Steve
     
  42. Matacumbie

    Matacumbie Rocky Top

    Amazing stuff Star, great photos.

    Ugh, I hope the guy's in the chopper know that's a camera your pointing at them. :eek: :D

    Steve
     
  43. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    thats a nice UH-1 Huey how much would it cost to order me one just like that with the guns?:D:D
    looks like fun may i have a ride on them? seeing as they may never be used?:D
     
  44. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    sounds like a bet any takers?
     
  45. martinch

    martinch Specialist

  46. gal1998

    gal1998 solo-cob

    I am so sorry to hear this.

    Hope it doesn't cause major problems.

    You get some much needed sleep. Don't dream of buzzards.
    Take care
    Gal
     
  47. G.T.

    G.T. R.I.P February 4, 2007. You will be missed.

    Buzzards? I thought you kept all the congresscritters BEHIND the ropes? :D

    Take a rest. You've earned it.

    Press will likely salivate, but you've repaired something like 15,000 damaged tiles over the life of the birds, most all of them obviously NOT show-stoppers. That's a huge database of what's acceptable damage. I doubt Disco is any more buggered up than usual, but nobody's ever LOOKED this hard before. I wish that the darned tiles were less fragile, but the only other technology that seems to work in white-hot plasma is the heavy ablative heat shields that were used on the smaller capsules, and I'm sure that's not an option for the much larger shuttle belly.

    Until we either find a better replacement for the tiles, or engines that can pack enough delta-V to slow down to atmospheric speeds instead of using friction braking, we're pretty much stuck using what we've got.

    As far as the Gypsy Rose Lee fuel tanks, is internal foam an option, or is the inside of the outer skin the actual fuel tanks?
     
  48. RexNoctis

    RexNoctis Corporal

    IT's a shame, but yes it was a test flight.

    On the bright side, the ISS should be OK for a while :D

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050728/325/focqb.html

    15 million! That's where all NASA's cash has gone, they've invented a TARDIS :D
     
  49. N5638J

    N5638J Guest

    i been watching it on the nasa channel ( on dish network) right now the view is from the s-band cam:$ it looks like its getting ready to dock now;)
     
  50. BoredOutOfMyMind

    BoredOutOfMyMind Picabo, ICU

    Thanks for the great photos Star- helps those of us who do have the affliction of dialup.

    (mine may be going away soon!)

    :D
     

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