need help building pc nothing works

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by flyinghooves, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    Ok here is what I have:

    Ultra grid atx mid case w/ 500 watt psu
    EVGA nforce 650i ultra mobo
    intel core 2 duo 6550
    lite-on litescribte dvd writer
    seagate barracuda 500 gb hd

    It is all in the case, plugged it in and the only thing working is the case led light. :cry

    Lisa
     
  2. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Not powering up, then you need to confirm all of your case wires are connected to the motherboard properly. These vary from case to case and should always be done one at a time. Power, reset, speaker, hd led and so on.
     
  3. Fred_G

    Fred_G Heat packin' geek

    Last edited: Jan 19, 2008
  4. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

  5. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

    Accuracy is important with computers. Something works.
    If the LED works then the mains supply is good and the power supply is producing the standby 5volts.
    If there is no LED lit on the mothrboard the control signals between motherboard and power supply are suppressed for some reason.

    Have you wired the start switch to the correct pins on the motherboard?
    If you are certain you have identified these, momentarily short these with a screwdriver or flying lead.
    This should start a correctly wired motherboard safely and test your switch.

    Try following the advice in the link at the beginning of this thread


    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=148993
     
  6. dlb

    dlb MajorGeek

    I have seen many PC that were assembled without using standoffs. They are usually in the bag-o-screws that is included with most cases, but it usually isn't explained what they are for. They're the little brass thingys that look like you could put a screw into it. If you didn't use these, the board will short out because it's screwed directly to the case backplate- not good. On the plus side, this seldom destroys the board. Are you sure the CPU has been installed correctly? I have seen novice builders not remove the plastic protective thingy from Intel CPUs and they forced the chip into the socket, damaging the socket in the process. I've also seen AMD chips just kind of sitting on top of the socket; the retention lever was overlooked, so the CPU never actually made it into the socket and was just sitting on top. Then after the heat sink and fan was put on, the CPU pins were damaged. If this is your first build, and you weren't VERY careful and thorough, many small things can be overlooked.
     
  7. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    okie dokie

    I got everything running, it booted and told me the bios had been reset to restart the pc. Now the monitor shows it is in standy, no pic.

    Took the whooooolllllle thing apart and reinstalled everything carefully, added more thermal goop to the cpu, yes i used the spacer things, I got it to start again. I restarted it and back to square one.

    Tech support said to reset the cmos take out the battery and yada yada yada. That did squat!!

    Any ideas????
     
  8. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

    How did you identify which way round the processor fits in?

    What memory have you got and how did you fit it?
     
  9. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    the processor, I looked at the installation pics, lined up the cutouts and put it in.

    ram... Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz E.P.P. Memory (2 x 1024)

    only 1 stick in the slot furthest from the cpu.

    All connections are connected, it went through the bios again and got as far as it letting me install the OS. Now it is dead again

    I turn it on, and everything lights up, sounds like its running but no beeps no screen.
     
  10. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

    You need to use 2 sticks to get dual channel.

    Quote below is from Corsair spec, my italics/bold



     
  11. Triaxx2

    Triaxx2 MajorGeek

    The computer I'm using now, if the power is connected in the manner the manual shows, it fails to turn on at all. Turned ninety degrees, it functions properly. Try just plugging in the power button.
     
  12. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    Re: need help building pc some stuff works

    Thanks for the advice :)

    Now the board manual states not to put the ram sticks side by side, it has 4 slots and wants them a slot apart. Do these need to be side by side? I was told by tech support to use one stick to boot.

    As far as the case plugs, The manual says one thing for the board, another for the case and the board itself is marked different roflmao

    I will try just the power button plug and reset the cmos again as well as use both sticks.

    How far does the board have to be from the back of the case?? it seems it is mm from the slot openings. I reseated all the plugs, the cpu, the cpu heatsink/fan. Everything fires up it just isnt doing anything :confused
     
  13. gimpster123

    gimpster123 Bring out the Gimp.

    Input/output ports should be flush with the faceplate.

    the ports on the back of your motherboard should be nearly flush with the metal panel with all the holes in it.
     
  14. Denise_M

    Denise_M MajorGeek

    My gosh . . . just a few months ago, I was going thru this myself. The things that I needed to fix/ensure were that the cpu and heat sink were working properly and plugged into the 4-pin port.

    Also, are the cables attached properly? Do you have the right power cable going into the motherboard and into the right slow on the motherboard? Do you have the fan connector in the right slot?

    My hard drive has a set of very small rubber caps (I forget what they're called) and they have to be covering the right set of pins. There are 4 pins in a row.

    Taking the battery out resets the CMOS, so that was a good idea.

    Guys? . . . could it be something like the power on switch isn't working?

    Do you have the DVD drive set as the first in sequence in CMOS/BIOS?
     
  15. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

    Dual channel operation requires you to have a pair of (matched) memory modules, hence the name.

    Some motherboard/processor combinations will not start without both in place, some will start but in single channel mode. I could not access the manufacturer's site for the manual last night to check.

    The memory slots on the motherboard are colour coded to help correct placement of the two modules. I can see this in the newegg picture. You should place the modules in the same colour slots. Try both ways.
     
  16. Triaxx2

    Triaxx2 MajorGeek

    I always thought it was supposed to be one stick in each color slot.
     
  17. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

  18. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    Re: need help building pc no bios

    tried both sticks, reset cmos, checked all plugs, everything is spinning, lit up, humming, etc etc

    It went to bios, said it had a cmos error and it reset the defaults. I got into the bios, set the date and defaults. I know nothing about the bios settings but i am reading ;)

    Ok so I F10 to save, it exits bios I try to reboot and back to square one, nothing!

    I have pulled the plug, cmos battery, reset the cmos and am waiting :zzz

    I am ready for the funny farm :D
     
  19. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

    Still trying to download your manual but site unavailable.

    Do you have a better link?

    http://www.evga.com/support/manuals/

    Also I'm not sure about the behaviour of the board at powerup.
    When you say

    Do you mean it did all that by itself or did you see error messges and instructions to for instance F2 to continue, F1 to enter setup?

    If it reset itself where does pressing F10 come in?

    Normal bioses use the escape key or arrow to get to the exit.
    You also have to use save changes and exit, not just exit. Are you doing this.

    Why also do you keep resetting the CMOS?
     
  20. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    http://www.evga.com/support/manuals/122-CK-NF66.pdf

    that is the manual.

    yes, it went to the startup bios screen, said it had a cmos error and it reset the defaults by it self. I then pressed del to go into set up.

    set the date and time, f10 to save and exit.

    I keep resetting the cmos because EVGA told me to. :confused

    I have left everything as is, tried to restart it just now, everything powers up but no beeps, no screen.
     
  21. Denise_M

    Denise_M MajorGeek

    Are you sure the monitor is working?

    studiot asked:
    I don't see the answer to that question.
     
  22. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    I am certain it is not the monitor, I tried 2

    and i did answer, yes i saved and exit :)
     
  23. Denise_M

    Denise_M MajorGeek

    I didn't review your pc specs, but are you sure that the IDE cable to the floppy drive is connected properly? There are a number of ways to connect the IDE fdd cable. Did you try all the difference combinations?
     
  24. Triaxx2

    Triaxx2 MajorGeek

    Hopefully he got lucky and came up with a polarized cable. If not the correct way is usually cable towards the notch.
     
  25. Denise_M

    Denise_M MajorGeek

    When I built my pc, the small connectors at the bottom for reset, start, led, etc, were plugged in properly. After a lot of plugging things in and removing them, I tried plugging the reset connector into the start slot. My computer started up then. The start connector was broken.

    I'm trying to come up with the little miscellaneous problems that I had to see if one of them might help.
     
  26. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

    OK Lisa, I've managed to download the manual. It's actually quite a good manual.

    However I fear you may be facing a faulty motherboard. This is all too common these days.
    Before suggesting you send it back a couple of things.

    Reset the bios once more

    If you get the video working again go straight to the BIOS and follow the instructions on page 33 of the manual to set the HALT ON parameter to "NO ERRORS"

    Also check as per page 47/48 how many cores are shown enabled.
    Save and exit BIOS

    Do not reset the CMOS after this.

    With this setting if the system does not proceed to look for an operating system it is faulty . Send it back.
     
  27. flyinghooves

    flyinghooves Private E-2

    Thank you all for the help.

    T, I did as you said and voila! got the result you expected. I am RMAing the who lot. They said send it all back so I am :D

    I will be back when I get the replacements so you can assist me from step ONE this time :eek:

    I just realized youre in the UK T, my fiance is in Hitchin ;)

    I know I can do this with properly workin stuff!!!! Enough to make you mad!


    Denise, the case manufacturer told me the case has issues lol
     
  28. studiot

    studiot MajorGeek

    I have been in contact with one Xander Avila at EVGA

    Perhaps he also has a magic wand.

    While you are waiting for your replacement motherboard you might like to review this thread

    http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=148993

    Hitchin is nearly 200 miles from me now although I lived near there when I was 5 and still have relatives in that area.
     
  29. Denise_M

    Denise_M MajorGeek

    I'm glad that everything worked out well for you, flyinghooves. The next one will be snap for you. :major
     

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