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Need to be able to rotate and save PDF documents in a PDF file - Help!

Discussion in 'Software' started by montecarlo1987, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. montecarlo1987

    montecarlo1987 Private First Class

    Hello. I need your help. I am having an issue with the program PDF Viewer Plus (Pro) by Nuance. This program is of a component of a larger program called Nuance PaperPort 12 Professional. PaperPort is a scanner software program that works with many manufacturers’ scanners out there. You can scan to create many kinds of documents, like jpeg and PDF documents. I have personal opinions of Nuance – both +/- ones. The reason why I am here is for a negative one. Nuance technical support charges a pretty penny after its 90-day free support period. So that is why I am here. Nuance’s business model is terrible! People complain about their business practices, plus their software programming all the time and I do not blame them. They took over ScanSoft, a very good former company with a good product, years ago and only recently has Nuance done some work to improve their acquired useful and feature loaded products. Still Nuance products are full of bugs and issues. Their activation policies are terrible and very rigid, but I like their products for their features so I spend money for them.

    Anyways, my issue – After I scanned the documents, they automatically saved on PaperPort’s desktop as a PDF document. Now, the pages of the document on PaperPort’s desktop are all upside down (scanned that way, not intentional) in a small PDF icon. I say, no problem. I will open up (click on) the PDF document to open PDF Viewer Plus and use the “Rotate View” option. I do and all the pages in the PDF document are re-arranged right-side up. Now, I save the modified PDF document so the changes take effect. I close PDF Viewer Plus thinking the pages are right-side up. Then I see on the PaperPort’s desktop that they are STILL upside down in their small PDF icon. Hmmm… There is a folder location in “My Documents” for PaperPort items saved. I open that PDF file and it uses the free Adobe Reader PDF program. There too it is upside down. Hmm…

    How do I get the PDF document to save right-side up permanently? Any thoughts why saving a rotated images in a PDF document are not saving?

    Thank you!
  2. beanier

    beanier Specialist

    It sounds like it might be because the program you're using is a PDF viewer and not a PDF creator/editor. All you're doing is looking at the pdf; you don't have the ability to change the file as it was created. Kind of like you can get Microsoft Office Word viewer, Excel viewer, etc. which will let you look at .doc, .xls, etc. files but won't let you create/edit the documents.

    You might try PDFill- http://www.pdfill.com/information.html

    PDFill has PDF Editor, Writer, Tools, etc. PDF Editor costs $20, but PDF Writer and Tools are free. I'm not sure which one you need but it sounds like PDF Tools would be a good place to start as it offers the ability to rotate- http://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html
  3. Caliban

    Caliban I don't need no steenkin' title!

    AFAIK, Free PDF Reader can rotate documents, and it's available here at MG.
  4. plodr

    plodr Major Geek Super Extraordinaire

    Take the pdf, and use this free tool
    to rotate it. Save it as a different name so you know it has been fixed. When you open it to view, it should have the correct orientation.

    I use an earlier version of Paperport, before Nuance and it too had quirks. I eventually take what I've scanned and export to the computer desktop and save it as a jpg file because Paperport uses a propitiatory format that can not be easily viewed.
  5. montecarlo1987

    montecarlo1987 Private First Class

    Hello. I found the solution on my own and I am willing to share with all:

    After doing some research, I found looking under PDF Viewer Plus's "PDF Viewer Plus Help" the solution. Per the "Page Operations" section or "Rotating" -> "pages" this is what it states:

    Rotating Pages

    You can rotate pages 90 degrees clockwise or counter-clockwise, or 180 degrees.

    Select Rotate from a shortcut menu, or from the Options menu, or from the Document > Pages menu to open the Rotate Pages dialog box.

    Select a Rotate Angle and a page range.

    This rotation becomes permanent when you save the document.


    This command is different from View > Rotate View > Clockwise or Counterclockwise which only temporarily displays a rotated page.


    Note that the "Note" part is what I am trying to do by rotating the page and trying to save it where it would not save the PDF document with the pages upright. There is another 'rotate' command that is mean to permanently save adjusted upright pages.

    Thank you for your input and help!!! I have to look into your alternatives for PDF software.
  6. motc7

    motc7 Vice Admiral (Starfleet)

    Actually I have the solution.

    First, you must be using Adobe Standard or Pro to do this.

    1. Open the file.
    2. goto Document/Rotate View.
    3. Select the view you want and apply to all pages and all page orientations.
    4. (critical) Hit Control + S to save.
    5. File/Exit

    Next open the document up and it should be saving your page orientation changes. I just tested this thing this morning and it's working fine. I'm only commenting on this old thread because I was searching for a solution and thought if I'm having problems, I know others are. This was driving me mad.

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