New Pc, Old Os?

Hey guys,

bought a new PC because my old one is nearing the end of it's life it seems.
Now, I wanted to get cracking and set it up, but when I reviewed the manual it showed no XP supported, yet on the website of the MB I can find XP drivers. This is very confusing for me...

I have an AsRock FM2A68M-HD+ MB - and the riddle is now: Does it it support XP or not?

Can someone help me figure this out? I am thoroughly confused, it's contradicts itself (manual doesn't state XP, yet website for drivers says yes).

 

If you can get the driver, then it will work, in my experience -but XP is a little old and vulnerable , nowadays, I believe.

 

That is why it confused me Drivers here for XP, but the manual doesn't mention it

I don't do much with the PC aside of a lot of gaming. Banking is done through the laptop, which is secured

 

Well...apparently not. Or something is wrong big time...
Fresh install attempt at a brand new pc. This happened:

Any idea what it could mean? (Hardware...windows...)

 

A 'new' PC?
What is the brand name and exact model number.
If is is new it is madness trying to put XP on it.

 

Ya, a new PC. You know,all brand new parts, unused?
Sorry, being a bit silly.

It is a custom built, so it has no brand. I have a list of the things it has in it.
Hope the img helps.

 

Ok well it is still madness to put XP on it.

 

You could've spared me that comment... It doesn't help me one bit....

 

It doesn't help you using an Operating System that is 16 years old and for which all support ended almost 4 years ago.
That should help you but it's your money and your time dealing with the critical security flaws in XP so good luck with that. No one here is inclined to lie to you or sugar coat a silly choice.

 

If you want to argue with me, come in private.
I just asked help, not to be lectured. What good is it if I buy a new os for say a hundred euro, and it still won't work? Are YOU going to pay it for me? Think not, so I would appreciate it if you would stick to the what is going on instead of being a professor.

As I stated earlier, it is mainly to be used for games?? Sheesh...

 

I'm just doing the right thing for anyone reading this thread. Putting XP on a newly built system has no justification and anyone else thinking of putting themselves at severe security risks need to know that. 1000s read these posts and not just the thread starter.
Building a new system in the Autumn of 2017 that doesn't have hardware to support Windows 10 is also madness.

 

It still doesn't help with the problem Max.. are you keen on just picking a fight today?
The system is for games... Most games we own still run on that?

 

It's not meant to 'help' with the 'problem'. The 'problem' is that XP is in the dump.
And unless you have a retail version of XP you couldn't install it anyway.

 

The problem is that there appears to be an issue with the PC.... I don't understand what, so I ask.

Will you cease picking a fight already? Gosh..please go back to bed until the grouch is gone?

 

Why don't you just try to install XP? If it doesn't load and install you have your answer.
And if you don't like what anyone posts here you can just ignore it without turning to abuse.

 

Jesus Max, did you even read?
Or, wait, did you check the added screenshot of what happened when I tried to install??

 

Good luck.

 

Couple posts up I added a screen cap of what happened. That is what is going on. One would think it was understandable.

Wishing you a nice weekend as well.

 

The screen cap was a BSOD with no useful information.

 

That is all it showed me, sadly. Didn't do anything else after the initial sequence when it boots the CD-rom to prepare for installation.

If I had more info I would give it, but it's all I have.

 

Thank you, for the link, Tim.

Bare with me, trying to make sense of it (I am quite able, but some things do confuse - still learning new English words each day ).

Since it is a new system, XP repair won't work - at least, not in my eyes, as there is nothing there.
Virus could be, except I wonder how it could've gotten on a new drive?
Corrupt sectors is possible, for some reason things can go wrong.
Could attempt to see if the OEM driver-install fixes anything, if that is an option (not sure what the MB disc contains, never had a mini with everything on-board before).

 

I am going to say this then move on.

1. Unless your XP license is a full retail license, you cannot "legally" install it on this new PC. That is, if your copy of Windows (any version) is an OEM license (and the vast majority were) that came with another PC, it is not legal - under any circumstances - to install it on a new computer. That violates the terms of the license you agreed to abide by when you first used that license.

2. There is very little (if any) incentive for current hardware makers to develop (at considerable expense) drivers for legacy, unsupported, operating systems. First, XP often cannot take full advantage of modern hardware capabilities even if compatible. For another, the dwindling number of XP users makes it a niche market with no room for any profit or returns on investments.

3. The biggest problem with XP is its security vulnerabilities are a threat to the rest of us, not just you! Compromised systems are typically used to distribute malware or spam, or used to conduct DDoS attacks without the user even being aware the computer has been compromised. Therefore, I would urge you do NOT connect this system to a network that has Internet access so you don't become a threat to everyone else.

4. Contrary to what some may think, short of isolation from Internet access, XP cannot be properly hardened/secured. If W7 patches can't keep it secure anymore, how can XP be secured?

5. If you insist on refusing to purchase a modern operating system and you wish to connect this new computer to the Internet, I urge you to install one of the many "FREE" Linux versions instead. Except for gaming, there really is nothing you cannot do with Linux.
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Understand it is only because running XP threatens the rest of us that I am joining this thread. If XP was only a threat to you, it would not matter to me. But you running XP and connecting to the Internet creates a problem for me, my kids, my grandkids and everyone else who connect to the Internet too. So while Max's approach may have been brash and upset you, his warnings are still valid. Please don't become a threat to everyone else just because you want to keep using an obsolete, insecure, hazardous operating system - especially since there are many viable and free alternatives available to you.

 

Agreed on all counts, Digerati.

XP will not install to a SATA based system unless it is a very recent version which hast the drivers to support it. It was designed around EIDE.

I you want XP, get a current and up to date OS for your machine. Then, use a program like VMWare to run an older OS inside of your current one. Most new games will not be supported if you actually manage to install XP (snowball's chance in hell) on a newer machine. Period, full stop.

 

Because your XP install media in not capable of running with your current hardware. It is INCAPABLE of installing an OS with your current rig. Period.

 

Here's from the asRock's installation manual. Also the specs from asRock's page show the MB to be a very capable product. Give it what it deserves.



OS • Microsoft Windows 10 32-bit / 10 64-bit / 8.1 32-bit / 8.1
64-bit / 8 32-bit / 8 64-bit / 7 32-bit / 7 64-bit
* For the updated Windows®
10 driver, please visit
ASRock's website for details: http://www.asrock.com
* Carrizo FM2r2 processor supports Windows®
10 64-bit/
8.1 64-bit / 7 32-bit / 7 64-bit only.

 

You may be able to get a Win 10 assistive technology upgrade. It gave me a download assistant. I didn't run it as this is a 8.1 and staying that way. You may get it on a USB. You'd just have to follow through it to see if it still work.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

 

Get the manual from the earlier link to the XP drivers.
On page 59 it tells you how to disable Secure Boot which you need to do. You also need to ensure that the legacy boot device list includes your CD/DVD drive.
Save the changes and reboot to the XP installation disc.
Now it will install; but, you had also better have those drivers downloaded and saved on a flash drive because you need to install them as soon as the PC boots to XP the first time.
As a note, Windows 7 won't install unless you make the changes to secure boot and legacy boot options, either.
Also, the Windows 10 assistive technology upgrade only works properly if Windows 7 or 8 have been installed and activated.

 

She will also need the SATA drivers from the floppy disc image before Windows will even recognize the SATA drives. She can save the image on a floppy disc using a USB floppy disc drive and install them at the F6 prompt or slipstream them into a custom XP installation disc.

 

Or just change the BIOS to ATA mode instead of AHCI which only gives a very minor performance improvement in XP.

 

Negative. The disc would need to be imaged to a drive, then slipstreamed with necessary software, then burn a copy to media.

XP will not natively install on the hardware in question. Also, the chances of this being an x64 version of XP are exceedingly slim, so only 3.25 GB RAM will be recognized with an x86 OS.

It is simply not worth the risk, time, and work to make it happen. Especially not worth the security risk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

P.S. That APU is totally unsupported by XP. You would need to slipstream service packs 2 & 3 into the disc as well to have even the slightest chance of it actually installing.

 

I would hope that he would start with XP SP3; but, the VGA (APU) drivers are on that download page and I can't even count how many PC's I have set back to ATA and Legacy mode so I could install an older O/S and it has always worked for me. The only time I have needed the F6 drivers was for high end RAID controllers and a few odd SCSI's.
P.S. Does 150,000+ PCs I've serviced or 41 years doing it say something? Heck, even MS-Dos is new stuff!

 

As you want this for your games , basically,
http://asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/Manual/FM2A68M-HD+.pdf
As davismccarn says you need to disable fast boot in the bios, set to legacy mode (if available)
XP sp3, had the sata drivers, if I remember correctly -I see that your mobo accepts32, and x64bit,
so , I would start again-format, and
I would check--IS IT XP SP3? - If not let us know.
Is it set in Bios to legacy mode

1-Hard drive - connections good ?
2 - ram- perhaps a reseat , in case the fault is caused by a ram stick- even try less ram on initial install.
Re-install (format, and install

 

I agree with the mekanic and Just Playin.
Marti82, how did you, or are you trying to, install Windows XP?
Even Windows XP Professional SP3 doesn't include SATA drivers.

 

I could not remember, but I thought it did.......

l floppy drive to get the sata driver installed as JustPlayin said, so long since I installed an XP system

 

Vista downgrade XP discs or retail media with SP2 or SP3 MAY actually work on a SATA system. To my knowledge only the Trinity APUs from AMD will work with XP. Piledriver is now five years old, so the APU on this board would need to be said architecture to even have a shot.

The fact the install went straight to a BSOD shows that the discs are older than the aforementioned media, AND the installed APU is from the Kaveri series. Doesn't work with XP. Period. No driver.

Bottom line is that installing XP on any machine which accesses the internet is a fool's errand. If you really want XP with W7, just download XP Mode. If you want it on W10, go here:

https://www.download3k.com/articles...achine-to-Windows-10-or-8-using-Hyper-V-00770