PC gaming Question

im about to invest heavily on a pc rig able to play ne game on the market at this time but iv grown up only playing gaming systems never realy cared for the computer but with all the new systems getting IMO crapier and breaking down after a few mounths of hard core gaming and haveing to replace a hole system iv decided to move to a computer wich iv heard is the best gaming system ne ways and for the fact i can replace a 50$ thing instead of a 200$ thing but since i have grown up with a controller in hand i just cant get used to the keyboard in a gaming i cant type fast but that dont mean Nothing in a game so my question is.

if i were to buy a controller found one on a site called newegg that lol lookes like a ps2 controller. if i could hook that up and just use the controller and it work the same?

and on a side note im going to build my computer and i was wounder if some one can post some top of the lines parts i can use from the mother board to the soundcard and every thing in between i look at newegg and some of these items i cant tell wich is better then the other

-thanks

 

Logitech (among others) make a gamepad very similar to PS gamepads, called RumblePad.

There is a cordless version, and one without force feedback if you don't like it.


If you don't like using the keyboard, Belkin do the Nostromo n52, which is awesome.

Takes a few days to get used to, but once you do, you'll never go back.


As far as the PC is concerned, an AMD board with an nForce 4 or 430 chipset, coupled with 1GB + or RAM, and an AMD 64 3800+ or better would be ideal.

How much money do you have to spend, and is gaming your main requirement?

 

kool what dose forced feed back mean

yes gaming is mainly all i need it for cept for web serfing my mom is getting me a notebook for collage so all that crap will be on that

as far as money goes there is about a 4k limit but id prefer about 2.5k so it dosnt take as long to save for lol.

 

Force Feedback is when the controller vibrates, such as when you're shot, or shooting.

Not that many games support it.


You will need to also decide if you want SLI (motherboard) or not.

SLI is nVidia's brandname, while Crossfire is ATI's.

It basically connects 2 video cards to improve performance.

Performance isn't double, not even close, but it can be a way of getting a few extra years out of your PC.

 

yeah i just heard of thies SLI a few days ago could you go in to more detail on it for i still dont understand it 100% but its sounds realy great cuz im all about performance i was thinking of going with alienware computer becuse of there performance but then i found out that i could make as good as a computer as there's just buy building it but when i found newegg i found out it was going to be harder then i thought. and im prob. not going to overclock it cuz im going to put a lot of money into it and i whant it to last a long time tell it gets out dated lol so i just realy need a list of the best CPU motherboard and GPU and ram or dose the king of ram you get matter? all i know is my friend told me to get 2gb or at least 1gb OH and the HDD i read that it would be better to get 2 HDD one master and one slave but i dont know wich HDD out prformes the other

ps those two controllers you mentioned could you like link them to gethere and make them work as one?

 

LogiTech GamePads.

Belkin Nostromo n52 SpeedPad.

You don't necessarily have to go with the above brands, it's just a suggestion, but they are very good.

SLI Information. (CrossFire is ATI's system, but the idea is the same)


For motherboard, the best AMD SLI board in my opinion is the A8N32-SLI Deluxe.

For AMD, the best motherboards (socket 939) use an nVidia chipset, either nForce 4, or 430.

For CPU, the fastest are the AMD FX-60, but they are very expensive and not worth the money in my opinion.

An AMD 64 X2 3800+ or better would be very good.


(I didn't really go into hard drives because there isn't a huge difference between them. Any decent SATA II drive would be fine.)

 

Forgot to add, you'll also need to decide if you want nVidia or ATi for a video card.

 

Only if the game supports two controllers.

 

ok cool thanks for the info but on the types of GPU dose it just come's down to oppion's on wether i should go with ATi or nvidia?

 

oh and on a side not and realy lol my last question.

i was woundering what is the difrance of a optical mouse and a laser mouse?

 

My brother has a laser mouse...it works wonderful, It never "jumps". I use an optical mouse, the only difference i can tell you is, laser works better, it actually uses a laser where optical uses a light. I think thats it.

IMO i would get an SLI Mobo, and get a Nvidia 7900GT gfx card, and a Sound Audigy type video card.

 

all right ill take a look at these and thanks for the info on the mouse's

 

If you want to use 2 video cards, nVidia's SLI is better than ATI's Crossfire.

If it's only a single card, both nVidia and ATI make some pretty good models.

There really isn't a huge difference between matched models.


Laser meece use a laser, whereas optical meece use LED's.

They both work by shining light onto the surface, and reading the reflection to work out position, but laser is far more accurate.

Logitech G5 and G7 are very good gaming meece.

 

ok thanks for the info but one last question came to mind last night lol srry but when you build your own computer and you first hight that power button dose thing get realy complicated after that or is it as easy as putting a OS disc in and installing it?

 

Yes, it's pretty simple these days.

Assuming you've done everything OK, and you don't want to tinker with Bios settings, then it's just a matter of booting with the O/S CD (assuming Bios is set to boot from CD).

 

I definitely would build my own computer. Dells are okay, Alienwares are really expensive. I reccomend finding someone that knows their stuff and have them find parts for you. That's what my friend did and now he has a great system for gaming.

Cost: $1,000

 

You could also get a gateway computer (Their good computers, I Should know i own one), Also you get good customer service.

 

I highly recommend the G5, very good. but there is alos the razor copperhead. both are very good and depends on your playing style.

The G5 is a "hand" mouse because it fits in your hand where as the Copperhead is like "finger" mouse (No not the kids programme) it is alot smaller and alot lighter and tends to be held by the tips of your fingers.

The G5 you can tailor to suit your style with various weights, but TBH if you are not going to use mice much and use controllers instead, dont get one. They are expensive and take a bit getting used to, they are not part time mice. Think about a mx510 or 518 (if my memory serves me correctly) from logitech, a very good mouse and quite a bit cheaper.

 

I also want to chime in on the controller debate, that Microsoft's Sidewinder Strategic Commander, if you can find one, is a pretty good controller for certain functions on FPS games. Six easy to hand buttons for things like action, reload, and swap weapons. If you can keep it from sliding somehow, it's also fairly smooth for controlling motion.

 

I wouldn't waste your money on SLI or crossfire. just buy a single top of the line card and be done with it.

as for getting used to a keyboard and mouse? Well I too was a console only gamer growing up and didn't get my first PC till I was 25. I hated the mouse and keyboard but after awhile I learned to love the combo and can't fathom using a controller now unless it's a flight, racing, or sports game.

 

Hi gone2tokyo
Whether you choose crossfire or sli, install the biggest power supply you can find. Typically 525 Watt with a 32 Amp +12Volt rail is needed. I have a pair of BFG 6800GS SLI cards that'll do the job when pushed by video games like ElderScrollsIV:Oblivion but they do pump out scads of heat. So a case with front and rear fans will help to keep things running. In the video card wars, nVidia seems to be leading for the moment. They're logging the fewest number of complaints and getting the lions share of motherboard support. By the fall, I'm sure that ATI will be back on track with a less buggy crossfire chipset.

 

Crossfire has improved a lot, and as far as speed is concerned, it's now as fast or faster.

nVidias' connection and implementation is far supperior though, compared to Crossfire which uses messy external cables.

Crossfire also needs a dedicated card, a crossfire edition, but an advantage is the cards don't have to be identical.


Crossfire does have some technical and compatibility advantages though.

Neither is perfect and both have their problems.

 

I can readily adapt to any controller, and most Keyboard mappings with ease. The only times I use a controller on the PC, are on third person games like LEGO Star Wars, or strategy games, where some commands are just easier mapped out like that. And flight sims I use a Joystick.

 

Controllers come in handy, but I mostly use this great little contraption rather than a keyboard,