Persistent Windows update.

Discussion in 'Software' started by dmb06851, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. dmb06851

    dmb06851 Specialist

    I have downloaded and, supposedly, installed KB2742596 four or five times now.

    A few seconds later, the yellow warning shield reappears in my task bar.

    How can I stop this happening?

    My operating system is XP SP3 plus all critical updates.
     
  2. cipher

    cipher Major Geek Extraordinaire

  3. dmb06851

    dmb06851 Specialist

    I hadn't tried that fix - I wasn't aware of it, but I just ran it and the problem is till there.

    The update is, apparently, on my computer waiting to be installed.
     
  4. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi

    I take it this is via Windows Update as the install option, if you download from HERE does this work, choose the x86 version (bottom of the three listed downloads) and see if that installs ok and then run Windows Update again and see if the update is listed again.
     
  5. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Did you reboot after you installed the update?
     
  6. dmb06851

    dmb06851 Specialist

    Yes, it was via Windows Update.

    I downloaded it again from the address you gave.

    I didn't think before of looking in Add or Remove Programs, but I did after this latest download/installation.

    It tells me that it was installed on 09/01/2013, but the yellow shield and the update system still tell me otherwise rolleyes
     
  7. psco2007

    psco2007 Master Sergeant

    Right click on update and select "Hide" and you won't see it again.
     
  8. dmb06851

    dmb06851 Specialist

    Where, exactly, is the word "update" to which you refer?
     
  9. psco2007

    psco2007 Master Sergeant

     
  10. dmb06851

    dmb06851 Specialist

    On the Microsoft Update page I am presented with a High Priority update for Windows XP Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2742596)

    Right clicking on it opens up a "normal" right click menu which has Open, Copy Shortcut, All Accelerators, Add to Favorites etc etc.

    No sign of Hide.
     
  11. williamjacobs

    williamjacobs Private E-2

    How to "Hide" a windows update

    1) Click the yellow sheild
    2) Select the "Custom Install" radio button.
    3) Click "Next"
    A list of updates that are downloaded and ready to be installed appears4) UNcheck the checklbox next to the unwanted update.
    The update expands in detail
    5) Click "Close"
    6) Click the "Don't notify me of these updates again" checkbox and click OK.


    BEFORE you hide it, here are two solutions form other pages:

    Run the .NET Framework Repair tool:)
    [/U]http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135

    Install the Windows Installer 4.5 (originally meant for Server 2008, caveat emptor):
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8483

    Hiding an update is a second best choice to fixing.
    These updates prevent security breaches. If this security breach commonly fails, it becomes a more tempting target of hackers
     
  12. williamjacobs

    williamjacobs Private E-2

    ADDENDUM:

    The .NET repair utility failed for me and I had previously seen a reference to the manual standalone install for this update.

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36275

    I did not mention it because these manual installers are always available and have never worked for me when Windows Update failed, but when al else fails, go ahead and do the thing you're sure won't work.

    Waddya know.
    It claimed to install successfully. A subsequent Windows Update attempt did not list it as needed and after a reboot windows update STILL did not ask for it.

    Try the standalone. It works, this once.
     
  13. dmb06851

    dmb06851 Specialist

    Many thanks William,

    The first link in your post of yesterday effected a cure.

    I'm glad it did; to hide the offered update would be to effectively hide a problem in my system, which isn't at all satisfactory.
     
  14. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    I have all the .NET updates hidden.
    I've learned that they create more problems than the solve.
    Susan Bradley writes a Patch Watch column for a paid newsletter I subscribe to, called WindowsSecrets. http://windowssecrets.com/author/susan-bradley/
    Several Thursdays a month, she goes through the windows updates and patches and either tells you to install, wait or skip.
    I've been waiting until she gives the all clear on the .NET updates; until then, they will remain hidden.
     
  15. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    plodr...I have installed them all, because I have programs that require them all...or at least up to Framework 4.0.

    Everything is really smooth, and, for XP, I think .NET will be the framework for program writers to build for in the future. I don't know much about it, but this was interesting to find for me:

    at this link:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd460693.aspx

    I know nothing about these subjects, but this was a nice peek inside the .NET framework to see why anybody would pay attention to it...
     
  16. dmb06851

    dmb06851 Specialist

    Yes plodr, I, too, subscribe to Windows Secrets, and have done since they swallowed up Fred Langa.

    While much of its content is above me, it neverthless is quite useful to me.

    I often think that Bradley's concern over Microsoft's balls-ups borders on paranoia. Although it can tax one's patience, Microsoft eventually sorts things out.

    But then I'm a dilettante user. If my income and/or wellbeing depended on a computer I would perhaps pay more heed to her.

    The home computer is the most versatile tool ever invented :), but, as far as most users are concerned, I suggest that it can also be the most unreliable :(
     
  17. williamjacobs

    williamjacobs Private E-2

    Glad it worked, dmb.

    Interesting stuff on .NET 4.
    So dll library code that allows programmers to weave bits of multithreaded code into an older program that previous slogged along...

    That's pretty powerful stuff.

    I've looked at windowssecrets before but not religiously. The .NET update rundown sounds like good reading for insomniacs, but probably worth fighting the eyelids..
     
  18. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    AtlBo, I'm the opposite. I took my XP work horse computer and used Aaron Stebner's Tool to completely wipe everything .NET. Since XP didn't ship with any version of .NET, I figured I'd be fine. Turns out I was correct. I haven't had anything complain yet. I've not had the time to go to the two other XP computer's and wipe .NET from them.

    Win 7 shipped with .NET 3.5 and I've been diligently updating/patching that BUT I never got involved in .NET 4 (sort of like Java - if I don't have it installed, I don't have to patch it). So far on that netbook (not used for serious work) nothing has complained about needing .NET 4. Obviously I do not do any heavy-duty work on a netbook so my programs' needs are simpler than yours.
     
  19. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Thanks for the input plodr. That sounds like an intuitive approach to installing .NET updates. Don't download them unless you absolutely must.

    I don't remember which programs require .NET, but I recall seeing it listed a number of times for programs I have installed (requires .NET 3.5 or .NET 4.0). MS Office uses it, and I have installed a Win 8 knock off freeware called Win 8 Transformation Pack 6.5 that uses it.
     

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