PPPoe and ICS

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Astro1, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. Astro1

    Astro1 Private E-2

    Ok, here is what I have.

    An ISP Drop from a Wifi Modem (Nanostation5) IP address 192.168.50.247 (I have the password)
    A Netgear WRG 614v6 router
    A PPPoe connection via the network.

    My goal is to share this PPPoe connection with other clients on my home network.

    The computer when set to DHCP will establish a PPPoe connection just fine.
    The computer will establish a connection when being assigned an IP address OR having an IP address in the 192.168.50.X range.

    After doing some ping requests for open IPs I found this to be 192.168.50.50

    My problems - The router will not establish a PPPoe connection. I tried giving the router a 192.168.50.50 IP, still will not. Perhaps an old version...something. I tried the WAN port. Nothing.

    My current solution (not elegant IMO)

    I have plugged in the drop from the ISP (Modem-Bridged mode) into one of the router LAN side ports.

    I have set up an XP box with an IP of 192.168.50.50 as and ICS machine.

    I have configured one client (my laptop) with an 192.168.50.6 IP as it's the only way it will connect with the XP box (192.168.50.50) as the gateway.

    This is the only way I have been able to get the client online. With ICS, the XP box has to be static.

    The disadvantage is, that there are a lot of IPs on the ISPs network with .50.X IP range and only a few open IPs. At some point, I will get conflicts. I also don't want to sit on the same network as the ISPs infrastructure as fun as that may be. (Just wait till I find a gateway LOL).

    The other problem, is that the clients can't DHCP and have to set-up manually with DNS, IPs, Gateways and the IPs I have to check to make sure the ISP doesn't have one on the network. If it does and I set it up wrong, the ICS stops functioning because of the conflict. It's fine for the one-off case, but if there are several users this can be a hassle.

    Is there an ICS alternative? How can I set up the XP box as a server?

    I have 2 NIC cards in the XP box that I can use one to connect to the Modem and run the PPPoe session, and the other to serve as a gateway WAN drop for the router which would serve all the clients like any other. I have tried this but without success using ICS and pointing it to the LAN with the router.

    Should I have bridged the NICs and turned off ICS? What would then be the gateway for the router? I'm a bit overwhelmed with how to tackle this.

    It's fine right now, but I know that it could be better. I also want to eventually set up bandwidth management via Bandwidth Controller to limit and prioritize client usage.

    What am I doing wrong. You know what I'm trying to accomplish, how would you go about it knowing the above?

    Thanks a bunch! :confused
     
  2. thesmokingun

    thesmokingun MajorGeek

    can you set up the modem with the pppoe login/pass, then just use the router as a router, and forget all the static ip stuff?
     
  3. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

    Yes, put a router behind the "modem" and let it do NAT & DHCP for the rest of your computers. Most routers I have ever setup have a place for PPoe log on credentials.
    So plug the modem into the wan port and configure it it log on the PPoe connection. Then config the router to do your DHCP & forget all the static stuff.
    Also a lot of what your doing depends on the netmask. But the solutions your providing are going a bit overboard, considering you have the tools to set up a simple network.
     
  4. Astro1

    Astro1 Private E-2

    The interface (nanostation 5) does have an option to use the modem (which is really a wireless link/node) as a router which THEN can use PPPoe to access the network.

    Problem is, I'm not really supost to have the login for it or the IP of it's network. The only reason I know it, was because I watched the tech when he set it up. Regardless it doesn't seem to function correctly with the other station it connects with when I select "router mode" and pppoe on the modem itself. I can't gain access. I tried that already.

    Basically what the ISP does, is installs a wifi antenna (nanostation 5) gives you a drop and makes you use an OS based PPPoe client to connect.

    It works either via PPPoe via DHCP or via a PPPoe session on a 192.168.50.X box. Anything else the PPPoe fails to connect.

    The only reason I got around the limitation of being able to share with my LAN was that I noticed the IP the tech used to log in to the "station" originally.

    Seems like I'm stuck, unless I get a router (or somehow turn my PC into a router) that can PPPoe while being assigned a 192.168.50.X IP. Which is really what I have now. An xp box with a .50.50 IP connecting via PPPoe and ICSing to the othe PCs the router is no really just a hub/switch.

    Because I have 2 NIC cards in the XP machine I was hoping for a solution to let me use one to connect to the PPPoe session with the correct credentials and use the other NIC for ICS but I wasn't able to get it to work.

    The other solution that I have found "googling" was to use an ICS alternative but most are too costly for my application. Wingate $100 for 6 users and I haven't really found any others.
     
  5. foogoo

    foogoo Major "foogoo" Geek

  6. Astro1

    Astro1 Private E-2

    At foogoo, you're the MAN!

    The info in that link worked! Now I only have to find one open IP on their network for my XP(Router) box and the rest can easily be assigned internal IPs.

    Is there a way for the clients on my lan to get credentials via DHCP?

    Thanks again for the help.
     
  7. Astro1

    Astro1 Private E-2

    Nevermind on the DHCP question, figured it out. I can just assign it via my actual router.

    Now do you know of a solution that I can use to prioritize bandwidth to clients on the LAN?

    If I use the router as just a simple hub/switch then I can assign each client a separate IP but is there a way to prioritize bandwidth and access priority between the clients at the XP box?

    My goal would be to say give one IP or MAC address the priority and bandwidth over another.

    I also figured out that I can even DHCP the card with the PPPoe connection, because it doesn't matter what IP that card had as I'm no longer using ICS.
     

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