Problems again...My Network window freeze

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by mdowns, Aug 12, 2006.

  1. mdowns

    mdowns Private First Class

    Hello geeks! :)

    Here's my setup: two computers running XP Home SP2; one computer (MAIN) has two partitions I want to share; the other computer (DEN) is hooked up to the TV and speakers, and I want it to read the partitions off MAIN. The computers are connected to an ADSL modem through a router. Both computers can use the internet.

    When I first tried this setup, I had problems having DEN see MAIN. Using the advice from a previous thread, I made sure the router was seeing the computers. I made sure I could ping each computer. I ran the Network Setup Wizard, and made sure that all the relevant fields were entered correctly. I restarted the computers, and lo-and-behold it worked. I could run WinAmp on DEN and use the music from MAIN. I could watch movies from MAIN on DEN. It worked.

    Then I went a couple of days without using anything (busy at work, not much time at home, etc.). When I tried to play WinAmp the other day, the connection didn't work. When I click on DEN's My Network Places and then click on MAIN's Shared folder, Explorer freezes and I have to kill the process (if I click on DEN's shared folder from MAIN, there's no problem). If I click on the "view workgroup computers" icon, I get a message saying MSHOME is unavailable, contact the network administrator, blah blah (when I click on "view workgroup computers" on MAIN, it works just fine). The network was working just fine a few days ago. :confused:

    I reran the Network Setup Wizard on both computers. I made sure I could ping the computers. I checked out the router settings. But nothing.

    The fact that this was working just fine a few days ago is driving me nuts. I haven't done anything to the computers (aside from using MAIN to check email, surf the net, etc.) since the day it worked, yet now it doesn't work. What could possibly be wrong?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
     
  2. mdowns

    mdowns Private First Class

    Forgot to add: MAIN is using Kerio Personal Firewall, and DEN is using Windows firewall. I've enabled file and print sharing in DEN, and added the ip address for DEN (192.168.8.18) to the trusted areas on MAIN.
     
  3. cat5e

    cat5e MajorGeek

  4. pari22

    pari22 Corporal

    You may just have dns resolving problem on the DEN. You said you can still ping the main computer, right? Then try to access main by typing ip instead of UNC.
    For example, try typing "\\192.168.8.1" (main's ip address), instead of "\\main" on start - run
    if this does work, set your IP's to "static" and it will work all the time.
     
  5. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Are these two machines up all the time on the network?
     
  6. pari22

    pari22 Corporal

    You can not ping each other if your pc's not up.... pretty simple.
     
  7. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    PARI22 - The question I was asking....was not if they were up but if they were left on all the time. Very simple question if you have a command of the English language.
     
  8. mdowns

    mdowns Private First Class

    These computers are usually up all the time. Sometimes they go into stand-by mode, when not in use for a significant amount of time. But for the most part they are running all the time.

    Is that going to make a difference?
     
  9. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    What's the status of your systems? It appears you have configured them with static IP addresses, correct? I'm assuming that you are still able to ping each machine from each machine? Were you able to see both machines using the START | RUN and typing \\192.168.8.18 from MAIN; and the same from the DEN machine using MAIN's IP address?

    If all of that is affermative, then I suggest building an LMHOST file on each machine with both machine names and IP addresses.
     
  10. Jenny-rc

    Jenny-rc Private E-2

  11. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Huh? :confused:
     
  12. mdowns

    mdowns Private First Class

    They don't have static IP addresses. Or, at least, I never set them up with on. The computers do tend to have the same IP address assigned from the router (192.168.8.17 and 18).

    I can ping each computer just fine. But, I can not do the \\192.168.8.17 or 18 command for each computer. I get an error message (sorry, don't have the exact message in front of me right now).

    It's funny that the MAIN computer has no problem accessing the shared folders on DEN, but that DEN can't access anything from MAIN. This is the exact opposite setup I would like (I could care less about accessing DEN folders using MAIN).
     
  13. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Just a little clarification....if you are on the .18 machine, you can not START | RUN \\192.168.8.17 or \\192.168.8.18 from the .17 machine? Very strange.

    OK.....turn off the firewall in both machines and try again.
     
  14. mdowns

    mdowns Private First Class

    Here is the message I get when I start->run->cmd \\192.168.8.18 from the .17 machine: "The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect."

    However, like I said, I can access the shared folders on the .18 machine from the .17 machine. Just not visa-versa.

    I'll try turning off the firewalls...and see what happens. EDIT: got the same error message.
     
  15. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    no.....

    START | RUN type \\192.168.8.17 then OK

    no CMD..
     
  16. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Below...
     

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  17. mdowns

    mdowns Private First Class

    Hey jconstan. Sorry for the late reply to this...things got busy and I haven't had time to fiddle around with the computer. :(

    Now, I did what you said and typed in the \\192.168.8.19 from the DEN computer. And, guess what, it brought up the shared folder from MAIN! :D Yet, I still get the error message when I try to access those folders through "my network places."

    What should I do to make these folders accessible to programs running from DEN (e.g. having WinAmp read the library from MAIN)?

    Thanks a bunch for your help. :)
     
  18. TimW

    TimW MajorGeeks Administrator - Jedi Malware Expert Staff Member

    Stupid question (but considering my age .....) do you have the exact same user accounts on both computers and have logged into that account at least once on both?
     
  19. jconstan

    jconstan MajorGeek

    Wow, its been a while.

    The simplist way of getting a program running on DEN to access files on MAIN is via mapping. Share the directory where the files reside on MAIN and call it FILES for an example. Then go to DEN and MAP a drive, say Z, to \\192.168.8.19\FILES and check the box to perform the MAP on login. Then tell the WinAmp program on DEN that the library is located on drive Z: and away you go.
     

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