Report: Air Force dumped remains of 274 troops in landfill

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ItsWendy, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. dyamond

    dyamond Imelda Marcos of Majorgeeks

    Can't we all just agree to disagree? this is becoming a circular argument as those speaking strictly out of emotion can not see the logical side of things and vice versa.
     
  2. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    It is totally represhensible the way the ramains have been cremated,they should have all been shelved and labelled as spare parts for Cher.:major

    I agree with everyones posts :confused Blown out of proportion and at the same time it seems disrespectful,I seriously doubt ANY of the soldiers wouldn't have had a full military send off where they were remembered and thanked with a perminant memorial.

    If it were me who'd been killed, a grave and something to remember me by would suffice,I wouldn't want a ceremony every time they found another piece of me and if money was the issue I'd much rather they spend the money on bullets and body armour for my comrades who were still fighting.

    Saying that I think that Phantoms idea sounds about right,transporting STERILE ashes in a sealed container to somewhere more appropriate can't be that much of a logistical nightmare.
     
  3. BILLMCC66

    BILLMCC66 Bionic Belgian

    @ gloozit
    That is plain wrong, in the USA and Britain the military is a volunteer system and when you sign to serve your country you fully understand that you could be sent into a conflict zone.

    I do not know which branch of the services you were in but in my unit orders were obeyed without question and anyone who contemplated going over my head had ruined his career in the forces.
    I was a Colour Sergeant (Master Sgt in the US) and i received my orders from a superior officer who would listen to me if i queried the order (that was my job) but if he said to me "that is how i want it done" then that is how it was done, i then passed that order on to the relevant marines under my command and i would expect that to be done NOW it is not open for discussion.

    I know there are other vets on here and you have my deepest respect for the job you did under difficult circumstances.

    This is my last post on the subject so i end with "this has been going on for many years but somebody got caught and that is why there is all this furore"
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2011
  4. Spad

    Spad MajorGeek

    This practice was disrespectful, insensitive, misguided, and morally repugnant in my view - and I agree it was totally unacceptable - but NOT evil. Evil is in a whole different class, pure and simple. If you can’t tell the difference between this practice and a truly evil act, then I don’t know what to say. Shame on those in command who decided this was in any an acceptable practice . . . but shame on you for calling them evil. The people involved here are veterans also. Don't forget that.

    No one posting here has said that.

    Multiple veterans commented prior to this post of yours. Be interesting to know just what you weren’t happy with, because I have seen no post here that is beyond the pale on this issue.

    I served in the USAF, and I highly disagree with this practice. I'll say again I find it disrespectful, insensitive, misguided, and morally repugnant - and I'll also say again Phantom's suggestion is a good one.

    Once more, it is ridiculous to try and turn this into something it is not.
     
  5. LauraR

    LauraR MajorGeeks Super-Duper Administrator Staff Member

    This has gone round and round and round and really nothing new has been discussed. Everyone has given their opinions. Rehashing isn't going to accomplish anything. Nor is questioning anyone about their opinion. This is not aimed at anyone, just a general statement. This topic is all a matter of opinion and frankly, discussion on an internet forum is Not going to change anyone's view.

    To put it bluntly, I think this discussion has pretty much run it's course.

    Just to add...I do think this was an extremely interesting thread to watch and everyone has brought up extremely well thought out responses. :)
     
  6. Phantom

    Phantom Brigadier Britches

    Yep, thanks Laura. ~ Guess the bottom line is - that the armed services are the only jobs where dying or being permanently incapacitated is literally a part of the job description. Those that have "walked the walk" know this. Arguing opinions, no matter how fervent, or in some cases, justified, does not honour the dead, i.m.h.o.

    I am done here.


    ~ Rest in Peace...:major
     

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