Northern Ireland. That's a fantastic example. There, the British allowed Gerry Adams, a cold blooded murdering terrorist, to basically escape any sort of responsibility for what he did, and become involved politically. I'm sure the family members of those who were bombed, and what have you loved those negotiations. Then you mention Iran. That, is the most laughable negotiations that have ever taken place. Essentially the world powers, to include the USA, banked on Iran promising to not develop nuclear weapons, or a nuclear weapons program, and then has since gone on to do exactly what many predicted. That is, to completely ignore everything they agreed to. Let me ask you this. Let's say that Kim Jong Un launches an ICBM at Britain, and it lands right in the middle of Trafalgar Square. Will you advocate negotiations at that point? As for someone using The Guardian to prove that I am wrong, I just find that newspaper utterly laughable. BTW, I did not vote for Trump, because I know him to be a democrat at heart. But make no mistake, Kim launches a missile at Guam, I fully expect the capitol of NK to be flattened. We do not even need nukes to do that. North Koreans, all of them only understand force.