SEVERE problem with Everything from voidtools

Thanks. Will do. Just one more question about something I've just noticed. My C drive's total capacity is 449 GB. I have 255 GB free, which means I've used 194 GB, but the size of the backup image is only 178 GB. What happened to the other 16 GB?

 

Jesse Newell...

An image is actually a compressed bit for bit copy of what was on the drive at the time of the creation of the image. The compression of the image guarantees it will be smaller. However, that is actually a little bit high for an image of 194 GB of data, so I am wondering if Macrium's normal backup is a full image backup with no compression. No big deal, as it will restore normally, but that would leave the matter of the missing 16 GB. Not sure about Macrium, but some backup programs will by default not backup temporary files and temporary internet files. There could also be others intentionally left out (because they aren't critical or really important) that could easily account for the 16 GB.

I use Paragon Backup and Restore, and my images for a 300 GB partion that contains about 35 GB of data are roughly around 16 GB in size. I have looked over the settings without changing anything, but most of it is geek to me, so I can't really say why they are so small. I have used them numerous times to restore, so I do know they work. That's the main thing.

Once you get your image restored to the new drive, you can start a new thread about what is the best imager. I have used two, and I feel each of those would have created a much smaller image than what Macrium created for you. Nonetheless, one thing at a time, I guess. Make sure it works and then go from there.

 

Will do. Thanks.

 

Wanted to get a new drive today, couldn't. Will have to be tomorrow. Fortunately, this piece of shit is still running but now I have to create a new image because of several software updates I had to run today. Does creating a new image necessitate creating a new Rescue disc?

 

Jesse Newell...

No, you won't need a new disk. The disk is just like a portal you use to get at your image without booting into Windows...like a rescue disk. It also contains the program to run the restore...

 

Great, thanks.

 

Jesse Newell...

If you would like, you can try the disk any time and take a look at the program. It doesn't run anything without you pushing the buttons. Restoring will be simple, but the process is a few steps. Actually, it would be a good idea to make sure the disk is working and that it finds your image.

Just drop the disk in the tray, boot, and then press a key when instructed to boot from the disk...

Also, once you have finished with your second image, you can get rid of the first one.

Any questions, just post them...

 

Sorry, wasn't expecting another reply. You've probably gone to bed now. I'll have to get rid of the first image before I create the second one. I don't have enough room on my external drive for both, not with all the other stuff I have backed up on it. If I am able to find the image with the disc, can I abort the boot and go back to normal boot so it doesn't abort the updates I did today after I created the image?

 

Jesse Newell...

Just so you know...if you simply updated Windows, that's no big deal. You won't need a new image. Once you restore this image, Windows will retrieve them again. If you updated something else, you can delete the image and create a new one if you like. It's probably not necessary, either. Most everything updates automatically these days or with a notification.

Not to confuse you, because once you boot into the rescue environment you will see it looks like any other Windows program. The program has its own operating system built in basically, your PC processor running the program straight from the CD/DVD. A part of the program is the ability to create an image or to restore one. You could use the disk to make your new image. Obviously, you can create the image in Windows, also, using the Windows based Macrium program you installed to make the first image.

You will see that can exit the program at any time. Booting to the CD/DVD won't make any changes to the system. You would have to choose the restore option and then locate your image and then choose to begin the restore process. Once you have looked over the program, you simply find the exit and reboot option, select it, and then open the tray and remove the disk (before the reboot passes the manufacturer's screen). The PC will naturally boot into Windows.

To create your new backup if you choose to make one, start by deleting the old one first, so you will have room. In Windows, just go to the drive and find the folder containing the image. Right click on the folder and select delete. That will make room for your most recent image. Then, still in Windows, open Macrium and repeat the same process you used before you make your first image.

Hope this helps.

 

Hey. Sorry for taking so long to reply. Been having personal difficulties. I've got a BIIIIIIIG problem. I deleted the first image, created the second image, put the Rescue disc in, turned off the computer, then turned it back on again assuming that it would automatically boot off the Rescue disc, but instead it just booted up normally. What have I done wrong?

 

Um, well, no, I didn't exactly remember this step, as I didn't exactly know it in the first place. It worked, so thanks, but now I'm having this weird other problem. Even though I changed the boot priority back so that the machine should attempt to boot from the hard drive first, and even though it does boot successfully from the hard drive, it still asks me, as the boot is starting, to press any key to boot from the cd/dvd, and I do, and the Acer logo flickers back on for a second, and then the normal hard drive boot resumes. So if it should be booting from the hard drive first, and it is booting from the hard drive, why is it still asking me to boot from the disc?

 

Jesse Newell...

Did you boot into the CD yet to make sure it's working?

I have never been able to understand why some PCs give the "press any key to boot from CD/DVD" message and some do not. I do believe that only will happen when there is a disk in the drive, so, if you remove the disk, or, if it is removed, the boot should be normal. I know what you mean, but I don't have an answer for why. Maybe dr. moriarity or someone else knows...

 

Yep, it works fine, thanks. Even locked onto the image automatically. Didn't have to browse for it. And removing the disc did get rid of the on screen message. I'll let you know if everything goes well when I buy my new drive.

 

Jesse Newell...

Great and you did great to stick with it, as it were, and see it through. Imaging is intimidating the first time. It sounds super sophisticated, but it all actually makes sense once you get a chance to see the software and make the first backup. There is more you can do, so you can start a new thread if you like to discuss the best strats for imaging.

Was your image huge again this time? Maybe there is a way to set the backup algorithm so that they are smaller...or you could take a look at other programs. Main thing is you got your image...

 

Thanks for all your help. I'm happy now with how things are. I'm gonna try and get out this weekend to buy my new drive and I'll let you know if I manage to get everything booted up normally.

 

Jesse Newell...

OK great. I'm sure it will work out...

 

Time to revive this thread. I opened my rescue dvd in explorer, and found a section inside the window that said "Files ready to be written to the disc". There was one file in this section, called desktop.ini, that's apparently a configuration file. Am I supposed to write this file to the disc before I can use the disc, or can I just leave it as it is? And if this file IS supposed to be on the disc, why didn't Macrium burn it on with everything else?

 

Jesse Newell...

This should help:

http://superuser.com/questions/2757...itten-to-the-disc-of-any-cd-or-dvd-inserted-u

It's a weird quirk of Windows, since Windows always places a desktop.ini in a folder. Apparently Windows gets confused into thinking you may want to add the file to an already burned DVD when the desktop.ini on the burned disk and the desktop.ini in the folder don't exactly match (I think this is the explanation). It's not necessary. Windows manages desktop.ini files...you don't need to worry about them...

 

That's a relief. Thanks.

 

The reason desktop.ini shows is because you have chosen to Show hidden files, folders, and drives.
Control Panel > Folder options > View.

 

Thanks. I was wondering why it wasn't showing any longer. I did a system restore and now I'm not showing hidden files anymore.

 

Oh shit. I just remembered all this now. I'd totally forgotten about it. I went ahead and bought a 1 TB drive just because it has more space than my current 500 GB drive. If I'd remembered this, I'd have saved myself trouble and money and just bought another 500 GB one. I doubt the store will allow me to exchange it, and I really wanted that extra space. Is there much hassle involved in reclaiming it? And can I do it with freeware? I really don't wanna spend MORE money.

 

Jesse Newell...

This won't be a problem. I have forgotten which version of Windows you have, but here is how to extend a partition using what is in Windows 7 already:

https://askleo.com/how_do_i_use_an_unallocated_space_partition_in_windows_7/

Take a look at the "Expand the adjacent drive" section...

 

BRILLIANT, thanks! That doesn't look like any trouble. I have Windows 8.1 though, so I hope the methods aren't too dissimilar.

 

Jesse Newell...

Could you post a picture of your drives from the Disk Management window? That's the one that shows you the partitions with the bars going across.

Just want to make sure you don't have a factory restore partition on the drive...

 

Do you mean the new drive? But I haven't had it installed yet.

 

The current drive...

 

To do that though, I'd have to open a browser window. Thought you said I should keep those closed while I'm running a scan. I can tell you what it says though:

Disk 0, Basic, 465.64 GB, Online. 600 MB Healthy (Recovery Partition), 300 MB Healthy (EFI System Partition), 449.08 GB NTFS Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition), 15.67 GB Healthy (Recovery Partition). Disk 1, Basic, 931.51 GB, Online. 931.51 GB NTFS Healthy (Primary Partition). CD-ROM 0, DVD, 4.38 GB, Online. 4.38 GB UDF Healthy (Primary Partition).

 

Jesse Newell...

Looks like you have a recovery partition. Need to see the pic, though, to be sure. Post it once your test is finished...

 

You're beginning to worry me. Is having a recovery partition a good or a bad thing?

 

Everything failed again. I had my external hard drive on, opened Everything to look for a file on my main drive, and it told me it could detect only 100,000 files, in other words, all the stuff on my external drive, but NOTHING on my main drive. I turned off my external drive and opened Everything again, it scanned my main drive and this time picked up all 400,000 files on it. Now I have my external drive on again and Everything is picking up a total of 500,000 files. But what happened a few minutes ago? Why could it detect NOTHING on my main drive? I know my main drive's OK. It's only a few days old, and I just ran Western Digital's Data Lifeguard tests on it. It passed both the SMART test and the extended test. No bad sectors found. So what could have happened with Everything?

 

I found the following on the voidtools website.

http://www.voidtools.com/faq/#The_result_list_is_empty_or_contains_only_drives

 

Damn. I don't have a Volumes tab, only a General tab.

EDIT: It seems there's only one "tab" that changes to whatever you pick from the menu on the left, but none of the options on that menu says Volumes.

 

****! Why don't voidtools UPDATE their FAQ so it matches Everything's LATEST VERSION?! AGH! There's NO option called VOLUMES, but there is an INDEXES option, with an NTFS suboption. If I select that, I see a Local NTFS volumes list with my main drive and my external drive. I see the Enable USN journal, Include in database, and Monitor changes checkboxes, but NO checkbox for Check Media! AGH!

 

Slow down.
I just downloaded Everything. And yes, the FAQ doesn't match the program. And there are no tabs...
Check Media means you must select each volume (drive) and then check the options. I would also check Auto include new removable volumes.

 

Thanks. Sorry, I just have no patience or tolerance for anyone not doing their job right. If a program is changed, the FAQ should be changed IMMEDIATELY! Anyway, Auto include new removable volumes was the only option of the ones mentioned that wasn't checked by default, so I hope that checking it now will fix the problem.