the comming holiday and what it means

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by obnoxious, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. obnoxious

    obnoxious Corporal

    I thought with the 4th of July holiday comming up this might be appropreate to share with you,
    http://patriotfiles.org/Pledge.htm

    The narraitor may be a commedian but can still be very serious when necessary.
     
  2. scorcer

    scorcer ajMro keGe

    That was real good, it may show it's age, with the 48 states and all, but, I guess that's what 'timeless' means :)

    I'm very patriotic, I fly the flag every day, take it in every night, I've got one that practicaly covers my bikes whole windscreen.
    So, I find it real nice to see everyone else celebrate the COLORS

    The 4th of July is the birthday of the principles that, to this very day, continue to influence the world. Maybe our politicians don't always get it right, but the 4th is about the people, the land, and the ideas for which they stand.

    it's hard, for me anyway, to express in a way that does my feelings justice, I preview what I've written here, and it reads like , blah, blah , blah. Compared to what I'm trying to say :eek:
     
  3. obnoxious

    obnoxious Corporal

    What I read is something comming from the heart and not just blah,blah, blah.
     
  4. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    Thats nice Fred, and special coming from such a wonderful, entraining man like Red.

    I have (rather had, passed it on to my children) my fathers military burial flag which has 48 stars.

    Dan always has a flag out. We lived in Los Angeles for a few months and right away he put up a flag in front of the apartment we stayed. I heard the neighbors from the apts. next to us talking, saying, "did you see the flag"? "Yes, I wonder what thats all about".
    Funny how a few miles makes such a difference in how people view things.
     
  5. ynot

    ynot Private First Class

    It is nice that you can fly your flag in the US. Over here in the UK if you wish to fly the Union Jack, you have to get through planning, councils, ow and of course the possibility that you may offend someone. I kid you not.
     
  6. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek

    I believe that you live as a patriarch through the choices you make, and things that you do. Patriotism is a way of life, not a set definition. Since 9/11 patriotism in the US has tried to be redefined, I don't think it need be.

    On September 11, 2001 while I was working in small town, PA we heard the news about the attacks, and people actually wandered the businesses and homes here shaking hands, and getting to know people for a while. The town bought a flag for every business on Main Street, and we attached them to the parking meters out front. At one point that day I was driving through town and "God Bless the USA" was on the radio.. it was like a concert, I swear everyone was listening to the same station, and they all turned it up, all you head was that song. I stopped in the middle of an intersection, got out of my car and saluted the nearest flag, now I know that song wasn't made as an anthem, but things like that, at "The Angry American" became staples in our society for quite some time.

    Today you'd be stoned for blocking an intersection, even with a disabled car.. but that day, people cheered and followed suit.

    I live as patriotic as I can, I too have a flag, and it flies daily. I've called businesses who fly Old Glory at night without a light on her, and asked that they either fly her with respect, or donate her to someone who will.. 2 businesses put up lights within a week, the other few learned to take her down at the end of business.

    The Fourth of July means different things, to all kinds of people. One thing you can be sure of is that there will always be a 4th day in our 7th month... But to protect the meaning of "Independence" we'll always ALWAYS have a fight on our hands.

    Semper Fidelis.
     
  7. scorcer

    scorcer ajMro keGe

    @ paxton my dad taught me at an early age how to treat the flag, I HATE seeing a flag in the dark or bad weather, good for you for going in and making them do the right thing :)

    @ynot now THAT'S crazy! :confused

    @ obnoxious thanks for understanding :)

    @ darlene I Salute your dad ;)
     
  8. musksnipe

    musksnipe Guest

    The 4th of July means independence and freedom to me.
    The freedom to say and believe in the things I want to believe in. Not as dictated by my government or others. It means the independence to do what I want, when I want, without travel restrictions or permissions.
    It means having the protection of my government, the right to bear arms, and the right to a fair trial if I need one. (and who knows? I just may someday.)

    The Preamble of the Constitution:
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
     
  9. Paxton007

    Paxton007 MajorGeek

    My Name is Old Glory
    by Howard Schnauber

     
  10. obnoxious

    obnoxious Corporal

    Here are some other thoughts from some of my local people when asked about being an American and America.

    We asked random Blue Water Area residents what makes them proud Americans. Here are some of their responses. NOTE: NAMES ARE UNDER QUOTES


    “I like the United States over other countries I visit because of the freedom we have here.”

    Peggy Wolfe, 67, Brown City, retired

    “The United States gives you the freedom to be yourself and voice your opinion. You’re able to be different here.”

    Becky Morden, 40, Port Huron, office manager

    “Well I was born here. You can identify yourself with the culture. Other countries aren’t as diverse as the United States.”

    Jayne Parker, 40, St. Clair Township, self em-ployed

    “In America, you can be an individual with rights, freedoms and the understanding of others, which other countries are lacking.”

    Jennifer Hayes, 28, Port Huron, teacher

    “It’s the diversity of the culture and land that makes living here great. It’s a welcoming, giving and blessed country.”

    Bill Rome, 41, Fort Gratiot, self employed

    “I believe in freedom. You can choose and do the things you want to do.”

    Jeff Bousson, 48, Fort Gratiot, communications manager

    — Compiled by Dillon Barr, special to the Times Herald

    Not everybody can express themselves as good as others but the thoughts are still as important to each person.
     
  11. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

  12. scorcer

    scorcer ajMro keGe

    @ darlene WOW, I was on flag detail, many times, in the military, and I didn't know all those details, good find, good info, good post :clap
     
  13. darlene1029

    darlene1029 A Grand Lady- R.I.P. 06/06/2012

    To bad the guy is blocking the view though. There is a printed version also, real long though.

    Just found another with pictures
    http://train.missouri.org/~emgeer/flagfold.html
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2008

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