THe Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

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Anyone else see Michael York?

 

This guy Slowfuse figured out how to run Oblivion on a Radeon 9200. This is what I have, my PC meets all the other requirements. I would like to know how Slowfuse got Oblivion running. I can get into the game but it is completely white in the background in the builb character screen and when I play. I can interact and play the game, the indicator bars appear fine and some objects but everything else is just white. When I started up the game for the first time it didn't recognize my video hardware settings. When I try to modify video settings in game and exit the game crashes. I know I can get the game to work albeit on low graphics, can anyone help?

 

yeah i got it today and im having that same problem too. im using a geforce4 Ti, its a 128meg videocard but all the drivers ive tried have the same problem. if anyone could help id be much appreciated. i really cant afford a new card. cheers

 

I have a 128mb card and was wondering the same thing, can you post any screenshots? Adrynalyne said that it could run on Med settings so Im guessing I wont have a lag...or too much of a lag.




:::~~W_AV_Y~~::

 

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/i...6193&hl=9200se is where i found the answers to all my probs... its running GREAT for me. If you take the time and read through, you will see who has what kind of card, and how to modify the .ini file to get it running with your card. Also, there is a texture pack that someone made, that runs awesome, and even if your card works, it seems to up the fps on most cards.

Hope that helps!

 

That link doesn't work.

 

sorry about that... guess they killed that link! its kinda suprising how many links lately are "broken" in the forums.

Anyway, i found this :

http://www.oldblivion.com/

which is supposed to do the same thing without all the ini tomfoolery. Hope THIS link works in 10 min...

 

Yes please - I'm umming and aahhing over spending some rarely saved money on a decent card but want to see what I can get over the extremely underrated 4600AGP I have. What can I do to get this game working?

 

www.oldblivion.com

it switches to pixel shader 1.1 and allows older cards to run it fairly well. it does have some graphical bugs but at least its playable

edit: ah crap, double post!!!!

 

This Game Rocks ! ! !....( Just got it today



Are there any Mods to help your character Run faster, I have the caps lock on but the run is still slow.



*Rants* Damn Elf beat me to Alientuses Journal, and now I cant seem to find the Elf so I can steal it back.....Grrrr....*Rants*



Just like you said Adrynalyne, the game runs on Med Settings. The only drawback is the water and reflections...I have no reflections but the game runs smooth.


~~:W_aV_Y:~~

 

Whoever has played the game,

Does it have the same creatures as Morrowind?

Is it buggy? (Morrowind was very demanding and would crash to desktop every 30 mins)

Is it as huge and open-ended as Morrowind?

Are there more character voices? (Morrowind had the same voices for different characters, which quickly became annoying)


(I'm holding off buying the game till I get a better machine)

 

Didnt play Morrowind, but Im planning on buying the rest of the Elder Scrolls Collection now.

The game is huge, I love the small missions. Im trying to return the Amulet of Kings to Jauffre and join the Thieves Guild right now, plus I have atleast three more missions...and this is only in the very first part of the game. The FPS crossover with RPG is what I liked about Deus Ex and Invisible War, this game does it well. I dont like Third person view games as most RPGs are.

The character voices are good, meaning everyone has there own voice. But....I think its kinda strange that some NPCs have a really good Brittish accent and some sound like they live in California??? Or there accents change during conversations...

I havent played the game to long enough to discover bugs yet. But my cheapo 6600gt is handling the pressure pretty well. But now I am thinking of upgrading my card..

All in all, Im glad I bought the game. Got it from a private vendor through amazon, only costed 36.00( tax+shipping included)


--W_aV_Y--

 

Thanks for the reply.

If you can get Morrowind, go for it.

Despite it's bugs, it's a superb game that's almost endless.

Are there the same creatures like Nix Hounds, Wild Guar, Rats, Slaughter Fish etc?

(The Cliff Racers in Morrowind are damned annoying!)

 

After playing this game (TES:Oblivion) I want to know more of the story. So I am on the look out for Morrowind....if I can get it cheap enough.


Havent seen Nix Hounds yet but they throw the rats at you early...big rats.


The game is great...but its make you wanna buy a better card to fully experience the beautiful landscape. I can play FarCry on high settings as well as FEAR and HL2...but this large game makes me feel...um..inadequate in the gfx card department.



PS: Maybe Betheseda has a contract with the Tolkien Estate, but I swear if youve read the Lord of the Rings collection or the Silmarillion you know that most of the these characters are stolen or borrowed from those books. O well....still a great game.


--W_aV_y--

 

Amazing!

this game is probably going to win "game of the year"

it has the BEST graphics of ANY game I have ever seen.

It's awe inspiring

 

That's why I'm waiting till I upgrade later this year.

I've already "ruined" Far Cry, HL2, and Doom3 by playing them on this piece of garbage.


Wavy, Morrowind can be picked up for next to nothing these days.

As I said, it has bugs, but it's still one of the greats.

I've played it for over 400hrs, and I'm still discovering caves, mines and quests.

Amazing for a game that comes on 1 CD only!

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...m=gurupa&url=index=blended&keywords=Morrowind

Yeh, I found it for 17.99 here. 400 hours? Wow, thats dedication there. ....As soon as I get the money Im ordering it, how are the other 2 Elder Scrolls games?

 

I've never played Arena or DaggerFall, but from what I hear they weren't that great and had problems.

They're pretty old games too, so getting them to run may be a challenge.


As far as 400 hrs, no it's not dedication, it's called "unemployment".

And it's one of the few games that runs on my piece of rubbish.


BTW, $17.99 is expensive for Morrowind.

I can get it for AUS $9.99 without shopping around, which is about USD $7.50.

 

Yeh, unemployment is my reason for spending 5-6 hours a day playing various games. But my excuse is that I'm still in college( got started late).


Man, the Aussies get great prices on their games. But maybe I looked in the wrong place for Morrowind. I saw the Morrowind screenshots frm Ign, the game looks just like Oblivion and hopefully I can run it on High Settings.



---w_AV_y---

 

We don't get cheap games, you're just looking in the wrong spot.

Morrowind is an old game, no reason why you can't get it for less than $10.

 

I'd daresay that they are confusing Morrowind with Morrowind: GOTY edition, which costs 19 bucks here.

 

I've never seen Morrowind GOTY edition, wonder what the difference is?

It's usually an extra CD with a soundtrack, or another manual etc...

 

GOTY has Morrowind patched, and both expansions (Tribunal and Bloodmoon).

 

Well there you go, you learn something everyday.

I never even knew there was an expansion pack.

The one I bought was patched to the latest, 1.2, and had the TES construction kit, but that's it.


Damn, now I want the expansions!

 

So, I guess 17.99US is worth the price, for the base game and the two EPs. Thanks for the info Adrynalyne


Cant wait for an Oblivion EP.



----w_AV_y----

 

I am a FPS gamer, but bought this game and having a kick!!! Does push the system.

 

I'm still a fan of Elder Scrolls III:Morrowind GOTY. It had reasonable graphics ( believable weather - I would squint when a sandstorm kicked in) and more bang for the buck in total gametime than a dozen FP shooters. But I found the game to lack a certain balance. Eventually, your character would become too powerful and many of the quests would become tedious dungeon scrapings without any of the dread that the early game provides. The expansion packs did a reasonable job of providing nastier, harder to overcome combatants, but the same problem eventually occurs. Then came Oblivion. This is a game with balance. The tougher your character becomes, the better armed and meaner are the enemies. I loved it all the way through. I've finally found a game, that can be played without "cheats" from beginning to end at any difficulty setting I choose. I've completed the Main Quest and perhaps a couple of dozen side quests. But throughout the game I stumbled across dozens of other quests that were left uncompleted. I shall replay from the beginning with a new character, with a few less warrior stats, to see what the effect will be. It has been mentioned; the graphics are stunning. When you're not "counting the individual leaves on the trees" you'll be stunned by the wind making waves across the individual blades of grass. When my character first found his way out of the prison dungeon to the "outside", I confess, I was near to tears at the beauty and expanse of the countryside. I was prepared for great graphics but I wasn't prepared for a semi-religious experience. LOL. But this game needs very good hardware. Before I bought this game I had good hardware - no fear to play Half-Life2 and the rest of the shooters, where all life exists in a pre-defined pipe ( and you can't solve anything - but one way). Then Oblivion came along and made a few hardware demands. OK - I caved. I got some new hardware:

Display: ViewSonic VX922 LCD
Case: Shark VA7000 BWA Black Aluminum
PSU: OCZ-Modstream 520 Watt
Main: ASUS A8N-SLI Premium
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+
RAM: OCZ-400-1024PDC-K ( 1GB DDR400)
GPU1: XFX GF 6800GS 256MB 256-Bit DDR3 PCI-E SLI
GPU2: XFX GF 6800GS 256MB 256-Bit DDR3 PCI-E SLI
DVD: LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B - IDE
HD1: Maxtor 6L160PO - IDE ( C:32GB, D:100GB, E:28GB)
KeyBoard: Logitech G15 - USB ( Gaming keyboard with backlit keys)
Mouse: Microsoft Optical-Wheelmouse - USB
OS: MS Windows XP Pro, Version 2002 Service Pack 2 - OEM

This game works great with 2 video cards and has optimisations for the dual PCI-E SLI configuration. Just for fun - I cranked all settings to the max. There was no degradation of performance until my charcter ventured outdoors. Most of the rendering engine's resources are burdened by the outdoor detail. If you want to see a realistic rendering as far as the eye can see, then expect a major performance hit. Other than that, they've provided more than enough settings to satisfy most rendering/performance expectations. For now, I'm content to run the game at slightly better than the recommended settings for my system.

The second time through, however, I'm going to take my time. This is a game that truly needs to be savoured!
-JC

 

I aint played any game since before christmas now,my beloved gaming computer 6800gt"OC to ultra",a64 35 "OC to 2.6=fx55"is quickly becoming oldskool,this looks like one of the last great games I'll play before its a minimum spec peice of junk,never played an rpg before just FPS- apart from morrowind but had to give it back to a friend before I could get into it,I remember shooting a citizen in the Head and getting fined for breaking the law,is there any law in this here Game?Can you get a bow and arrow or something that can fire stuff,I like shooting people and watching them die

Gonna get it soon

 

You can do whatever you want, if you are tough enough

 

But, alas.... you can't shoot while riding your horse



---W_av_Y---

 

Do you get to ride a horse in Oblivion?

If so, that's pretty cool.


*And thank to Adrynalyne. I just went out and bought the expansions for Morrowind, "BloodMoon and Tribunal".

 

Yep, you can ride a horse. Can't really fight while on it though. Your horse does tend to kick baddies though, which is amusing

@Insomniac--I aim to please

 

@Adrynalyne, I'm glad your aim is getting better.


I'm dying to get Oblivion, but only when I have a decent PC.

I just hope it isn't as buggy as Morrowind (as good as it is, it's still a buggy and demanding game).

 

I have had superb results with my game, minimal crashing and even less now that there is a patch.


Is Morrowind still buggy, I figured after the many years and many patches it would be less...um...buggy.

*wavvvvvyyyyy-___-*

 

Yeah, for some people, myself included, it's buggy.

It will crash to desktop every half hour or so, and I've tried all the patches and tricks.

Bloodmoon and Tribunal added a lot of fixes and improvements, but that should have been done in a patch, rather than charging for an expansion.

If it's one game that doesn't really need an expansion, it's Morrowind.

 

Stop trolling.

 

£17.99 may be the version which comes with Tribunal and Bloodmoon. Sounds about right for that price.

Wavygravy the first 2 Elder Scrolls titles are amazing games, just a big in scope as Morrowind but many times as big in terms of area and quests. Arena is buggy and now aging, but Daggerfall is an amazing game still if you can handle the 256 colour svga graphics and get it to run on Dosbox with 35000 cycles or maybe VDMsound. The music is excellent as well.
Also you might want to look at Battlespire, a very nice Elder Scrolls game with some great cities to explore. Smaller than the other games but very open ended.

 

Oblivion is very, very pretty to look at. But it is hollow at its core. The reason is apparently the fact that Bethesda had a collective stroke and decided it would be smart to bring back leveled monsters, a concept that we all thought had mercifully died off around about Final Fantasy 2. For those of you newer to RPGs or who haven't read some of the other reviews here already, the idea is thus: any time your character goes up a level, so do all the monsters. The stupidity of this scheme should be apparent to anyone, let alone any RPG players, because it makes leveling pointless. One of the great things about a real RPG (which, sadly, Oblivion is not) is that you get to "inhabit" your character - train them, customize them through various levels and skills, and enjoy the game in new ways as they grow stronger.

A long time ago, when RPGs were particularly new and (by today's standards) crude, monster levelling was common. You'd start off at level 1, take your pixelated character icon for a stroll on the World Map, and get ambushed. Typically, regardless of where you were or what terrain you were in, you'd get ambushed by monsters about your level. Eventually, you would end up in completely ridiculous situations like getting ambushed by 40th level Ancient Red Dragons right outside the pristine capital city, and realize the game was junk. I'm no programmer, but I'd speculate that it was simply easier to create a monster auto-generator based on your level than worry about area-specific creatures.

Of course, the ENTIRE POINT of going up levels is to be able to rip weaker opponents to shreds or simply frighten them off without a fight, features that savvy game designers started incorporating around about 1985. Bethesda's decision to turn 20+ years of collective gaming wisdom on its head is the corporate equivalent of Ford deciding it would be a good idea to make its next model of car run on a steam engine.

The fact that Oblivion also ties loot gathering to level is just an extra kick in the pants. Between the two, you've basically removed any incentive to be clever at all. Great games like Gothic, Gothic II, Divine Divinity, and, yes, Morrowind, encourage you to explore and be tricky by ensuring that if you manage to act "out of level" and steal a valuable sword or kill a higher powered monster, you will be so rewarded. You may get killed repeatedly in the attempts, but I think many folks would attest that managing to off an overpowered monster/player or raiding a castle you had no right to succeed at based on your character stats is one of the most exciting aspects of any good RPG. With Oblivion, there is no such incentive. You may as well "role-play" a penniless level 1 beggar because you have the same odds of success.


Customer review from Amazon.com

 

We've already established that your opinion is not one shared in this thread several pages back.

Move on, nothing left to troll here.

 

Games seem to drop quickly in price.

Oblivion was AUS$89.95 when first released. I've seen it now for AUS$61.95.

That's a huge drop in a matter of weeks!


I'm such a cheapskate, that by the time I buy it, it should only be a few bucks.

 

Adrynalyne ... do you not agree with the reviewers points? I think about 25 out of 25 people found his comments useful on Amazon, and I agree with what he says.

Insomniac ... I always find waiting until a game is released on budget is a good idea, especially when youre broke or have an old PC, but the downside of buying white label is you miss out on stuff like maps, manuals and posters etc.

 

I think Amazon has nothing to do with here..how about you?

 

Yes I'd say so as well. However, I would say a review of the game Oblivion,which talks about the game Oblivion, has something to do with a thread about the game Oblivion. How about you?

 

Look at Grand theft Auto probably the most popular open ended game in history,the missions become harder,the cars get quicker the baddies get tougher the weapons that kill the baddies need to be more powerful,it becomes more challanging and fun at the same time as you ascend the higher levels,no one had a problem with it in GTA,I have clocked GTA 3 and vice city and enjoyed them

I dont see what wrong with this,the restriction of not being able to challange the later bad guys IMO is to make you saver the game,it takes the self regulation from the game which can be a good or bad thing depending upon the person,some people will want to skip ahead as fast as possible kill the biggest bad guy and throw the game on the shelf,maybe bethesta didnt want people to do this after all the work they have put in

But its irrellavent really,until you play the game and rate it on its own merrits its all conjecture,the review you have picked was one guys experience,he obviously didnt like the level system,so what? Doesnt mean everyone wont like it,based on the selling figures for GTA alot of people like the satisfaction of level completion "or chapter completion" and clearly proves that this system isnt dead and isnt unpopular in any way,whether its a true open ended game or not, it is what it is and should be judged so

Why dont you buy the game and then write it off,you seem to be picking only certain 'minority' user reviews that highlight your arguement against the game when in reality the overwhelming concensus is this game is good if not great the only next logical step is to play it and prove to yourself that all the glowing reviews are wrong,I also dont understand how you can agree with someones point of view when you havnt even played the game,even if you did play the game now you wouldnt like it because you have already decided its a bad game,you could quote fifty people who dont like it nothing would change as there are hundreds more who did like it,if you are basing your opinion soley on user reviews and 'gossip' I find it hard to understand your omission of the good reviews other than to further your arguement,your clearly showing a bias toward the negative aspects of the game which whether right or wrong you still have no first hand experience on which to base your opinion

 

I see your point. ANd I'm glad there was no need for profanity in your post .........but it seems the basis of what your talking about seems like "cheating". Let me explain, the style of game play your talking about is similar to using cheats, in which of course you are much more powerful than your enemies and you crush them easily while virtually flying through the game. That style of gameplay grows old much to quick.

If Oblivion actually got easier because I leveled up I think I would become seriously bored with it real soon. But it's all about Preference isn't it ...To each his own~


Insom, TES:Oblivion is the first PC game that I bought that was nearly new. And so far I've been quite impressed.Lol, I still refuse to buy ANY game over $45.99. Most of my games are usually a year or more older. And you and others here have helped me find great deals on dynamite games I didnt know existed.


---w_AV_y---

 

You're welcome Wavy, anytime.


One thing that really annoys me about Morrowind, and I hope Oblivion isn't the same, is the save game system.

It only stores one quicksave, and one autosave.

If you need to go back further to fix a mistake, too bad. It's either put up with it, or start again.

I don't understand why it doesn't store half a dozen save points or more, like most games.

 

You can have a ton of savepoints in Oblivion.

 

That's good.

I can never understand why all games aren't like that.

 

I have the game Ricky, and will be playing it tommorow when my new graphics card arrives. I don't see the point in installing the game right now to play it with 10 fps . However, I read about 15-20 reviews of the game on Amazon and Half.com etc, and took all the information in. It seemed to me the people who loved Morrowind and Daggerfall the best rated the game 1/5 stars, and the people who were new to the RPG concept or were not fans of gold box / BlackIsle RPGs like Planescape and Icewind Dale (ie. long bearded AD&D gamers) rated the game 5/5 stars, with they're customer reviews focused mainly on the great graphics and sound etc.
I am one of the former, having been an ex Gamesworkshop and Warhammer fan. It seems Bethesda have made some crucial mistakes to me, and I know that a lot of people will dissagree and enjoy the game despite these flaws. Thats fine but to be honest I was hoping from hearing of the game way back in 2004 that this would not be the case. I think Morrowind was a true RPG and not only pleased hardcore fans but brought a whole lot of new people into the genre. Bethesda have gone with the input from the new fans, and not the old fans, in tweaking the gameplay to create Oblivion. One of the quotes from another reviewer that stuck in my mind was something like, if you are a fan of Morrowind expect to be dissapointed. If you are new to the games buy Oblivion over Morrowind.

 

In TES3:Morrowind the idea of levelling-up was to create a character tough enough to defeat the gods. Venturing into areas ( dungeons and caves ) before your character was ready, would often end with your defeat. The save-game feature, in this case, is a valuable friend. However, rewarding ( and, perhaps realistic) it might be, the high level character would often overwhelm the lower level quests, making them very anti-climactic. For TES4:Oblivion, they've tried another tack. Since, most RPG people agree, that the joy of playing such a game is that it is open-ended, with no-fixed-order of play. So, to avoid, the anti-climactic, the baddies get tougher and the monsters get meaner, as your character progresses to become the ultimate warrior. Then all of your side quests will have that same spine-tingling and neck tightening drama, as the main quest. The incentive, to level-up, may be diminished by this, but for balance, there are many quests that are locked until you've achieved a certain status. That status might be your level, or your affiliation or even whether or not you own a house. Sometimes you have to "know the right people" for quests to open.
To quote jedandjess: "You may as well 'role-play' a penniless level 1 beggar because you have the same odds of success.". It may be possible - but very unlikely. I attempted to complete the main quest at level 13. I was tough, well suited, ( Daedric armour conjure ) with plenty of healing and majicka potions, and just couldn't quite do it. I tried again at level 20- there were worse monsters but my hitpoints and other skills made it easier to get to the end - where I failed again. My character wasn't ready until, I was at level 23. By then , I had enough agility and speed and endurance and enough, counter-spells to defeat the main quest boss. A level 1 beggar might not be so lucky.
There are other compensations to leveling-up. It's the treasure. There seems to be plenty of moaning about the lack of treasure. If you venture into a ruin, at character level 3, you get level 3 rewards. You find fur helms, rusty iron axes and pewter goblets. The same ruin, at level 15, will yield, (as an example) an Elven magic sword, delivering 20 hits worth of 10 pts of frost damage for 10 seconds, a helmet that detects life and chests full of gold, weapons and armour. But most importantly, the enemies have doubled in numbers and in strength and your character, will be crouching and sneaking, so he doesn't get seen!
I'm well pleased by this feature. I love the dread of not knowing what's around the next corner. Even, if I do know, I save the game, anyways, because I may not actually come out alive.