Tired, Really Tired And Disgusted

Discussion in 'Software' started by Joe Ciaravino, Dec 23, 2015.

  1. Joe Ciaravino

    Joe Ciaravino Specialist

    I have a Windows 7 installation that causes my CPU to run in warp drive (with the fan howling like a banshee as well), and fries my memory sticks. I have tried, tried and tried to fix it but have given up. I will re-install everything from scratch, but meanwhile am running in safe mode with networking until I can record, save and document most of what I need before I wipe the slate clean.

    This bug............or whatever it is..................is so thorough, that it has locked most of my files. I need to access a certain file so that I can copy and save my email archives, to paste them into their proper folder after the reinstallation is accomplished. This will be a long and tedious process as it has taken me 2 years to get everything to perfection. I have tried all the "usual" ways to access these files, including changing permissions/ownership/etc, but still I can't open them or copy them.

    HELP!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

  3. Eldon

    Eldon Major Geek Extraordinaire

  4. Joe Ciaravino

    Joe Ciaravino Specialist

    Been there done that, but eventually the same things happen. I don't want to burn out more stuff.

    Please PLEASE hepl me get access to my files so I can copy them. I am logged on as ADMINISTRATOR AFAIK. No matter.............I am locked out of the essential files and ancestors in order to rebuild my build.

    PLEASE help me concentrate on getting access. Need expert on Windows 7 permissions/accounts/ownership and whatever else is involved.

    This installation is too far gone and cannot be fixed. I have system problems and cannot even get access to the repair console using my installation disk!

    I tried a system repair as a last resort but have been denied!!!!
     
  5. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

  6. sikvik

    sikvik Corporal Karma

    Here you go.

    Cheers..
     
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  7. the mekanic

    the mekanic Major Mekanical Geek

    Bad bits on RAM sticks will write data erroneously to a hard drive, in some cases severely corrupting an install. If you don't run MemTest before your next install, you're just fooling yourself. This build may have motherboard issues as well.

    What are your specifications?
     
  8. Joe Ciaravino

    Joe Ciaravino Specialist

  9. Joe Ciaravino

    Joe Ciaravino Specialist

    Don't think it's a RAM or MB issue since Task Manager shows CPU use @ 0% and memory use @ 10% when in safe mode. Running normal start begins OK but after about 30 seconds CPU usage jumps to 60+% and stays there with CPU cooling fan howling like a banshee, and mem usage jumps to 25+%. Certain system processes load which severely overtax the CPU and memory.

    I ran mem test after installing new memory last week and it shows all OK. The reason I needed memory was because it would crash dump frequently. The new memory fixed that, and that's why I won't push my luck by running in Normal mode until problem is fixed or new installation is done.

    Besides what's shown on the spec sheet, I have a 250 GB SSHD primary and a 1 TB HDD secondary. I have Ubuntu installed on the primary, next to Windows. I built the machine using a "Gigabyte" GA-F2A75M-D3H motherboard.
     
  10. sikvik

    sikvik Corporal Karma

    You need to run Ubuntu off a Live Disk and not installed.

    Cheers..
     
  11. harmless

    harmless Staff Sergeant

    i have had a win7 computer for a couple of years and it worked great, then about 2 months ago, i would turn it on and it would lock up solid. unresponsive, i could not do anything with it. reboot, same thing. so i immediately popped open process explorer to see what was going on, and it was all of these microsoft update processes locking everything up, and not just for a couple of minutes, i let it go for over an hour one time and my computer was still locked up solid. so i uninstalled the get win10 update, and completely turned off windows updates, and my computer returned to normal. and my computer has been fine since then. for kicks, a couple of weeks ago, i manually said ok, go get MS updates... 2 hours later, it was still trying to decide which updates i needed, so i just cancelled out of it, and i guess i am done with trying to update it, since the amount of time it is taking and the absurd amount of resources the update process is using, is just ridiculous. good luck with it.
     
  12. plodr

    plodr MajorGeek Super Extraordinaire Moderator Staff Member

    Updating Windows 7 can take 4 or more hours until anything besides downloading 0% of 0MB shows.
    I just walk away and let it do its thing.
    (My very unofficial/unscientific theory is that MS is punishing those of us who refuse to get on the Win 10 bandwagon.) I intend to keep Windows 7 on our four computers through 2020.
     
  13. Joe Ciaravino

    Joe Ciaravino Specialist

    I have gotten access to the files I need to back up.

    I'd like to take one last crack at a system repair before starting over from scratch.

    Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the system repair disk to work? That is: the Windows 7 installation disk Repair Console/System Repair option.

    If there is a process I can use to check the mainboard, I'd like that as well.

    Thank you very much.

    Joe
     
  14. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Joe Ciaravino...

    I have a question. Can you right click and check the properties of the problem files? If so check and see if the size for them is what you expect.

    Maybe you can run a backup of the files to another location on the same PC that will then be openable. You could try Windows backup for starters.

    Even simpler, you might try right clicking on the files each and then move down to "Send to" on the menu. Select "Compressed (zipped) folder" or one of the other choices like "Documents"...
     
  15. AtlBo

    AtlBo Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Joe Ciaravino...

    Typically, the motherboard is determined to be the problem only by process of elimination. There are a number of steps to go through to determine this, and it's quite painstaking.

    Basically, here is what I would do:

    1. Initial diagnosis and check to see how the PC runs in Safe Mode
    2. sfc /scannow
    3. Tweaking.com Windows repair
    4. Download and install Hard Disk Sentinel and wait a few hours while it gauges drive health (I would be looking for indicators that there might be a hard drive problem)
    5. chkdsk /r
    6. MemTest86
    7. Exchange the power supply for another PSU and see if that fixes the problem (real experts can probably look at voltages in a program like HWiNFO and tell if there s a problem with the PSU (maybe even the MB))
    8. Reinstall Windows or replace motherboard and reinstall Windows (if necessary)

    Not sure what the techs usually do, but the best ones are kind of uncanny at catching MB failures I have found.

    The problem in your situation is that you could accomplish most at this point, now that you have the required files, by going back to step 1. If you go back into Safe Mode and use the PC, it would be very helpful to know what processes are causing the processor to race and the excess RAM to be used. You can view this by right clicking on the task bar in Safe Mode and opening Task Manager. Click on the column header that says "CPU". When the problem occurs type into a notepad the names of the processes at the top of the list. When you have the names of the processes, double click on Task Manager to full screen it and click on the column header where it says "Memory". Now add the top one of those to the list in Notepad.

    This might tell us what is going on with your PC ALOT better. It's very unusual for unusual behaviors to occur in Safe Mode, because only the basics of Windows load, that is the standard capabilities of the OS without any OEM drivers added.

    There is no test for a motherboard, and there isn't unfortunately any software that inspects them, either. Hard drives have SMART data and chkdsk. RAM memory has MemTest, but nothing for motherboards.

    As for system repair, you would need to burn a recovery disk from the Windows 7 backup menu. Here is information on this process:

    http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/system-repair-disc-windows-7.htm

    Otherwise, you would need an installation disk for your exact version of Windows (32/64 bit Home/Pro/Ultimate). You can boot to that to run repairs if you have one...
     
  16. MaxTurner

    MaxTurner Banned

    Just uninstalling the KB update that initiates the Win 10 upgrade option is not sufficient. MS is actually *forcing* Win 10 on users. That's a fact and known about and been on forums for a couple of months. The only sure way to stop the constant 'downloading win 10 set up files' every time you actually want just normal important updates, is to do the registry fix:
    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

    Once done and system restarted you will never ever get any attempts to update to Win 10 again and WU wont go into a spin trying to download 2.6 gb of files.
    You can then calmly and quite quickly get the real useful OS updates you need.
    If in the future before July 28 2016 you actually want the free upgrade, you just set the value of that key to '0'.


     

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