Trump Becomes Gop Presidential Candidate - Muslim Elected As Mayor Of London

Nah...we're just mostly in the US and most of us don't have much of an opinion about the Mayor of London. On Trump, however, there are plenty of opinions to go around!

 

I don't know. It seems as far as regular/ repeat contributors close to 50/50 of US or different.

 

What has the mayor done? Heard a blurb on the news that he does not like Trump.

 

The Mayor of London is mostly the same as the Mayor of New York City. I doubt anyone in the UK knows much about the latter either.
But as it's the most popular destination in the world I'm sure plenty of people know about London.
Naturally, the new Mayor of London (being a Muslim) wont like Trump having said he would bar any Muslims from entering the USA. Apparently Trump has now said he would make an exception for Mayor Khan who, not unreasonably, has told him to bugger off.

 

I trust Mr. Sanders, looking more and more like I will need to write the democratic socialist in. To think I was once a registered Republican. I don't trust the Donald, and trust the Hillary even less. In reality it seems as if we don't even have a Republican running this time around. Either way we will reap what we sow as our Constitutional Republic is on life support.

 

Great man Bernie - if court appeals to overturn some terrible primary voting block succeed Hillary might not get the nomination:

 

I personally am not comfortable or enthusiastic about having Clinton, Trump, or Sanders as the president.

 

Oh well, the chances anyway are that the USA will just end up with another President in the pockets of the arms, oil and health insurance industries as it has been for decades. Sanders is the only one - by 1000s of miles - who definitely wouldn't be that.

 

Yeah, at least he admits he is a Socialist. Have to give him credit for honesty, rare in a politician.

 

And for staying true to it since he was a teenager. He's the only political candidate from any party in my memory who hasn't changed his mind 847 times about what he believes. I'm not keen on him being President, either, but as someone who values honesty and being true to your beliefs, he's far more in the winning column with me than any other choice.

 

I find it odd that someone would not change their beliefs and have thoughts change as they grow, learn, and are challenged by life. My opinion on many things have changed as I get older. Socialists, to me, do not seem to be living in a logical or rational world. But, The Burn scares me much less than the Hildebeast.

MaxTurner, why do you think the Trumpster would be in the pockets of big bidness? I mean, you got to have some serious cash to bribe a billionaire.. Trump would be taking a serious pay cut to be in office. Of course, that squirrel that lives on his head might have taken over his brain...

 

Hi Fred

I'm not saying that if elected Trump wouldn't feel the pressure to bow to those enormous pressures, he would in many ways. But I agree with you he wouldn't be personally beholden to the donors like every previous President was. And without a doubt Clinton hasn't one inch of manoeuvre she is so in hock to donors. The pay of Presidents or Prime Ministers while in office is almost an utter irrelevance. Once they leave office it is one gigantic gravy train.
For a small comparatively inconsequential country like the UK, Margaret Thatcher amassed a veritable fortune when her fellow Tories booted her out in 1990. As a consultant she made 10s of £millions and commanded astronomic figures for a 30 minute speech. Of course, as a consequence of almost unimaginable never ending bitterness from her removal she drank a huge amount on the way and descended into terrifying and traumatising dementia.
Sadly, the only result afflicting Tony Blair is that he is making money hand over fist in a gargantuan way, and not a hint of alcoholism or dementia. But never say never!
I don't think Trump is a bad man at all. He is what here in the UK we would call a bit of a 'spiv', a ducker and diver. I do think he is a supremely arrogant man who wont know what hits him on a daily basis if he were elected President. But he doesn't even approach the sheer dishonesty and duplicity of most before him.
I am a socialist (which means different things to different people) always have been, grown up as one. My mother and father both worked very hard in manual jobs and raised eight children. They both grew up in pre-2nd world war Britain in relative poverty all around them that was just common place. When Labour was elected in 1945 they saw what a truly free National Health Service meant because you no longer had to be SCARED about getting ill, that mass affordable house building meant they no longer had to raise their families in 2 rooms and an outside loo, that if you fell ill and couldn't work, for a day or a week, you didn't have to send your kids to a soup kitchen, or apply to the 'National Assistance Board' and wait for a bunch of suited ponces to come to your home and tell you what you had to SELL before they would help you. They knew the difference between working before when if you had an accident that was work related you ended up in sheer poverty, but now you actually had some rights!
They knew the difference between before the war, when most help for the vulnerable, the only choice was going to some do-gooding charity mostly run by poe-faced 'Christians' who looked down on the poor as heathens, and a system of welfare that encouraged work and gave support to people when unemployed or destitute. My life was based on being brought up to cast out the world of 'The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropists'
and for a life of human decency. That is my socialism. The socialism of FDR.

 

Mostly what I'm talking about is flip-flopping as opposed to evolving over time. There's a huge difference between adjusting your beliefs due to life experience or new information and abruptly changing them because you think it'll make you more popular. That's a kind of clumsy way to put it, but I think you'll get what I mean.

 

I understand.

 

I get you Sgt. Tibbs. It is annoying how almost all politicians tell you what they think you want to hear. I have much more respect for someone who has an opinion that they are consistent with, even if I don't agree with it. Rather ironic that if we lie to Congress, it is a crime. But those people lie to us all the time.

 

Character aside, Hillary Clinton has more political experience than Donald Trump will ever have.

Some food for thought...

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
"In our age there is no such thing as 'keeping out of politics.' All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia."
George Orwell (1903 – 1950).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_orwell.html

 

Eldon, but look what politics as usual has gotten us in the last 20 years or so. Might be time for someone who is not a politician.

 

I want to agree with that, but that was how Michigan ended up with Rick Snyder for a governor.

 

Well, Sgt. Tibbs, the career ones have not done well for us.

 

True, but going non-career businessman has completely screwed my entire state financially, health-wise, and on the civil rights front. Even his former backers are horrified at the hellacious mess he's made.

 

Sgt. Tibbs, I can point to about $20 Trillion reasons 'politicians' might not be the answer. There is no perfect candidate. But, in my opinion, the repubs and democracts have failed us miserably.

And I plead ignorance on your state's plight, just not familiar with it.

 

Trump will not be able to "self finance" a presidential campaign.

He already has his hat out...

 

I would guess his 'hat' is much smaller than the Hillary.

Trump is in no way perfect, but he has forced some issues into the forefront. Hillary, well, what has she done to better the country? Who has been paying her over the last 5 years? Maybe countries that take a much less, shall we say lenient attitude toward sexual preference, and have no rights for women?

I would ask any Hillary supporters, what 3 things has she specifically done to improve the lives of the American people, in her government service? With all her experience, I am sure I am missing something(s).

 

This election cycle is pretty much the lesser of two ills. To me, voting for Trump is like voting for Lex Luthor. His connections to organized crime alone are enough cause to not pull the lever for him.

 

Yeah, you might look into the Clinton's past. In my opinion, the hildebeast has a LOT of skeletons in her closet. Probably more like a large, walk in closet.

Hildebeast:

Chinagate.
Travelgate.
Whitewater.
Rather mysterious but convenient death/suicide of Vince Foster.
Cattle Futures. (She turned a $1k investment into around $100K in ten months.
Bengazi.
Several lies documented on camera, one the "Bosnia Sniper Fire" bs.
She is currently under investigation by the FBI. Just my opinion, but how likely would the FBI investigate a former First Lady, Senator, Sec. of State, and someone very
likely to win the Democratic Presidential nominee, if they did not have a pretty good case?

 

Trump has been the subject of the FBI as well, especially when it came to the mob and his casino dealings. Almost every member of Congress would be guilty of insider trading, were there a law against it, but there is no legislation that states they can't use information gleaned during session for investment decisions. This includes futures trading.

To me, I see Trump as a pompous windbag who took Daddy's money and made paupers out of scores of people when hare brained business schemes failed. The man is a pompous windbag, and definitely has the experience to guide the United States through bankruptcy should the national debt become too cumbersome. Statistically, the economy has consistently performed poorly under Republican administrations in the last forty years, and far outperformed during Democratic administrations. This is well documented by Alan S. Blinder and Mark W. Watson, so I can't look at history, statistics, and the dwindling middle class, then pull the lever for a Republican. Especially this one.

 

You'll find more in Obama's gun confiscation room than in her closet.

 

And I almost forgot Trump's company was sued not once, but TWICE by the Justice Department for racial discrimination.

 

Sexual discrimination?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Clinton-Foundation-pay-paid-men/2015/03/05/id/628496/

 

What race sued, and what was the outcome?

 

He settled. Twice. But, according to the prospective liar in chief, he never settles lawsuits. We have that quote on film. The Trump Management Corporation was caught red handed twice quoting different terms to African American, Puerto Rican, and other prospective minority tenants in Brooklyn, Queens, as well as Staten Island, and were even caught lying that rentals were unavailable.

As far as the Justice department suits, Trump also attempted to counter sue them for defamation and failed miserably.

 

Interesting, did not know that. As I said, not my preferred candidate. But, in my opinion, way better than the Hildebeast.

 

I really think this is the worst election cycle in my lifetime. Both candidates just plum stink.

 

McCain/Pailin vs Obumbles and Uncle Joe might be close.

 

There is still a remote possibility that Bernie Sanders will snatch the Dem nomination from Mrs Hillary. But if not it's likely there will be a third candidate in the actual election.

 

Actually, there are already far more than two candidates in the actual election. People tend to think there are only two parties and therefore only two candidates, but there are several.

 

Yes, but apart from Ross Perot in 1992 none have ever got more than a handful of votes. The USA political system is still an overwhelmingly two-horse race.

 

And the other two horses aren't running... those who don't vote.

 

If only more people would vote for one of those candidates instead of playing the "do I want the Republican or the Democrat less" game...

 

I would love to see the parties broken up by a real third party candidate. I don't think either party has served us well for 20+ years. But in the current cycle, I don't see how any third party has even a remote chance.

I kinda see Trump and Sanders as that candidate. Trump is not a super Conservative, and Sanders is a Socialist. Well, it will be interesting to see where we go.

 

Indeed! I was hopeful that former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg would choose to run. He would have given voters a viable third option. It looks like the Hillary Donald show is pretty-much a given for November.

 

Probably what the Whigs and Federalists thought at one point as well. It's not going to happen overnight, but if we all get off our collective butts and stop thinking we only have two choices, it'll happen a lot sooner.

 

Same here!

 

Most of them don't stand a chance, but that's more due to people assuming they can't win and not looking into what their platforms are and voting for them than it is to them not being viable candidates.
This site has a quick and dirty list of everyone currently running for President in the 2016 election. Most of them won't make the ballot for a wide variety of reasons, but we have dozens of choices if only people would open their eyes.
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm

 

LOL, Prohibition Party. Good luck there.

 

Not everyone thinks Clinton has got the nomination yet:
http://bients.com/breaking-more-than-20000-attend-bernie-sanders-rally-in-irvine-california/

 

Not looking too good for the Hildebeast.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/ig-report-clinton-email-server/

I suspect, like her husband did in the past, she will 'get out of it' somehow. Wonder is she is 'feeling the burn'...