trying to install xp

after install disk had load files it ask to start to instal when i push enter to staart
i get
blue screen

bad caller pool

i hope this isnt a huge problems to fix
thanks

 

Hi,

What is the make and model of computer?

It seems that error is caused by a hardware incompatibility. It could be a bad stick of RAM or another piece of hardware. Try unplugging any USB devices, printers etc. and see if any change. If you have more than one stick of RAM you could try removing all but one and see if you get past the error. Then after install try replacing the other RAM to see if a particular one causes the problem.

For instance lots of people in this thread for Dell 4600 had problems with a particular brand of modem causing the error.

 

Re: trying to install xp or fix bootup problem into xp

Hellon sach2
its a presario v6200 laptop

so i have to ram slots and to ram cards i mixed and matched
but still same error



windows not booting all it all started with speed fan
which has this know problem of at some point causing problems

i tried to uninstall speed fan it said i was uninstalled but it still show up on bootup line
and then next line it hangs up at mup/sys
this is when i just try to boot into xp


thanks for your time and info peace

 

Hello sach2
its a presario 6200 laptop

i mixed and matched rams but still same error mesge

 

Hi my friend , what programmes do you install in your machine ? Go to Start - Run msconfig - navigating to Start up tab - uncheck boxes except for antivirus ensuring the problem is not software !! :wave

 

Hello

i have treid load xp with one stick ram its still gives me error after initial files load and can start the reinstall????

2 i cannot boot into windows

to do hard drive check

it stops
at

mup/sys help thanks

i think hard drive fine linux runs fine



can i check in ubuntu its a dual boot and llinux/buntu is working fine

thanks thanks

 

this is error message when trying to install xp

bad pool caller

stop: 0x000000c2 (0x00000043,0xc6c26000, 0.0000000,0.00000000)

or
stop: 0x000000c2 (0x00000043,0xc3aa6000, 0.0000000,0.00000000)

=======================================
when i boot up in safe mode it hangs up at

windows\system32\drivers\mup.sys

also this started from the program speedfan i did some reading and it causes proplems so i tried to uninstall
but it still shows up in boot sequence

it is actually just before the mup hangup

windows\system32\speedfan.sys
windows\system32\drivers\mup.sys

thanks so much

 

I've read a few threads and haven't figured out the cause. I can't understand why the Windows CD is giving the same error.

Does the installation disc allow you to get into recovery console by pressing "R" for repair? If it does then I would run chkdsk c: /r command to see if it is a file system error that if fixed might allow you into safe mode.

I'm wondering if the problem is in the MBR of the hard drive? But you have Linux installed so writing the MBR would cause problems with booting Linux so I don't know what to do about that.

I'd be curious if you renamed /Windows/System32 to something like /Windows/System3232 if the Windows CD would load further without the error. I'm thinking something in that folder may be causing the problem although it shouldn't be accessed from the install CD. It would be an easy rename in Linux and could be undone if no difference.

 

hi sach2
more info
at start i hit f10 takes me to phoenixbios setup utility

then to diagnostics

primary hard drive self test
i run test
test status #1- 7 fail

it says fail but its a dual boot machine and linux running fine
i cannot boot into windows

so is bad sector of disk partiton is in windows and thus cannot fix windows but linix will rinning until the cows come home

thanks

diagnostics

primary hard drive self test

 

hi sach2

i will try the rename windoews system 32

could i just rename the whole windows file its
self
???

thanks for your time and information

 

Usually I would say the HD is bad but in your case something about your error seems to be only fixed by formatting the HD. I think the Windows update did something to the way the drive is read and gives a false positive about hardware problems.

I would do the simple test of renaming Windows\System32 to something like Windows\System3232 (just a name that is easy to change back) then see if the when you boot from XP CD it still blue screens after hitting install or if it goes further than before. You don't have to install I just want to see if something in Sytem32 is causing the problem. If it gets as far as partitioning then just back out and quit the install.

Edit: Yes you could just rename WINDOWS but just add a number after the name so changing back is just a matter of deleting the extra numbers.

 

I'll be away from the computer for a while but another option has come up.

You could try to rename /Windows/System32/speedfan.sys to something else like speedfan2.sys and also if it exits the file /Windows/System32/ifsmount.sys to something like ifsmount2.sys. Then try Safe Mode again and see if it still hangs.

Edit: This would be after restoring System32's name to the original.

 

hi sach


i renamed the system 32 so i can now get to

i booted with xp disk

i hit r for restore repair it took me to
c command prompt

C;\>

what do i put in the commad prompt
i guess i am in dos????

thanks

 

after renaming system32
i tried to boot windows safe mood
but got
windows couldnt start missing file

windows root system32\hal.dll

thanks

 

Hi,

So it seems it is something in system32 which takes the MBR of out of the equation which is good to know.

The recovery console/DOS prompt from the CD is limited to certain folders. So I don't think you can get into the renamed system32 folder. I'll double check that but I have to run an errand.

I think what I would try is going into Linux and renaming system32 back to its original name. Then going into the system32 folder and try renaming the speedfan.sys and ifsmount.sys (if this one exists) to something else. Then try to boot from the CD or to Safe Mode to see if it was one of those two specific files that was causing the problem. If you can still boot to CD or into Safe Mode then we can figure out what to do about those files. If you still get the bad pool error then we know it is something else.

 

hey sach

the rename of sys32 got me in to xp install

so i got to partion ?

i have
c which is ntfs

d not used

e not used i guess linux is hiding inhere??

i clicked c

now i am to formate ?

formate rapid
format

install system
[no changes}

which do i choose


hey thanks thanks for your help geting into the installl yeha


leave intact the current file system [no change]

 

You have two choices now.

You can try to fix the old XP by renaming system32 back to system32 and then renaming the two files in my last post.

Or if you want to install XP fresh then the install should now proceed. So you could choose C: (ntfs) and then choose to format if you don't care about your previously installed programs. NOTE: You would have to reinstall all your old programs fresh. Because we renamed system32 I don't think you can repair the current install. It would have to be a full format and fresh install.

It is up to you which option you want to choose. You still have an option to try to fix your old XP. Also, if you do choose to do a fresh install it will wipe out your access to Linux. So you should have your Ubuntu CD available to boot from. You will need it to fix the Linux bootloader.

 

does it matter rapid format or regular format

 

Sorry, just got back.

If you are good with starting fresh go with full format. Quick format is fine but full format only takes 10 minutes or so and makes sure there are no bad sectors.

Edit: Also I think you said in another thread that you will need XP drivers. Check the white tag on the bottom of the laptop to see if you can narrow down the exact model number. If you haven't formatted yet you can still try naming system32 back to the original name and renaming speedfan.sys to something else to see if we can fix the current XP.

 

hello sach

well i got to third step of full new reinstall where the computer shuts down to reinitialize but it shuts and never start up again

one time it begins to start up but then shuts down

does this make sense have

thaks
i did 2 ffull reformates so i assume my drive is ok
thanks

 

Hi,

It has been a while since I did an XP install. Which is the last screen you see before the computer shuts down? Give the step number of the last screen you see. http://www.buildeasypc.com/sw/windows_xp.htm

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What happens when you manually start the computer when it doesn't start on its own? What do you see?

 

hi sach
well i tried a few more times and it finally installed
not sure how or why but it did it
thssnks thanks
now i need to find drivers
i will try to from hp site
they show drivers for xp
its a vista machine but the man last year installed xp when we put on linux

so i hope it will work
if not the man said he has generic xp drivers
interesting the learning continues

will report progress for drivers install and after show this as solved
thanks thanks

 

hi again

if i put in dribers incorrect will it advise me which ones dont work

could i corupt the operating system by trying to install dribers until i find the correct ones

thanks

 

I'm not very good at drivers. I just use trial and error. If the driver isn't correct it usually won't install. Try the chipset and graphics from here and see if they install. If they do install then you should be ok getting the rest of the drivers from there.

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...842076&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=228#11360

If you get stuck try making a new thread in the Drivers section, here at MG. Give the model of the laptop and that you are looking for XP drivers. Someone there will have better information than I can provide. Or maybe someone will jump in here and help.

 

hello sach2

drivers worked fine
computer works great
thanks for your knowledge and time
peace

chris

 

Hi,

I'm glad you got it sorted. Thanks for the feedback.

I'd never seen your original error caused by something in system32. I wonder if it really was speedfan causing all the trouble? Seems odd that such a well used program would mess things up so badly.

I learned that a bad file in system32 can cause the recovery console to hang. I didn't think that was possible. I thought it would of loaded anyway to the C: prompt but yours didn't until you renamed the system32 folder. I'm going to try to remember that if I ever see similar trouble getting into recovery console with the pool handler error. Thanks again for working through your problem so we could all learn something from it.

 

Great work Sach2- but XP will install on a faulty hard drive,(a few bad sectors), where Vista and W7 will not. A good sign, I have found is when it keeps stopping when installing xp (missing dll's etc: its a sign. I am no expert , but have fought many a hard drive, and just recently managed to get XP to install on a dodgy hard drive that windows 7 would not have (I know it had a load of bad sectors , as I tested it )
From his posts to date, I think you have worked your socks off.
1/ Downgrading to XP has been done a lot from Vista and generic drivers can be a nightmare, as you know, but it can run very well.
2/ However, If I was looking at Vista downgrade today, I would personally advise upgrading instead- Windows 7 takes less cpu/ram for far more useage.- -even basic Windows 7..
Reading all his posts, I suspect waterboy2 wil be back, when XP hits a bad spot on that hard drive.

Additional to your hard graft, I thought waterboy2 might like to know an alternative recovery option for his laptop (back to factory ) from HP can be with keeping data- from HP ,if he still has the recovery partition intact - as he said he was double booting with linux, he may have overwritten that.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...09678&lc=en&cc=uk&dlc=en&product=3360355#N383

1. <LI style="MARGIN: 1em 0px 1em 20px">Turn on the computer and immediately press the F11 key repeatedly , about once every second, until Recovery Manager opens.
   <LI style="MARGIN: 1em 0px 1em 20px">On the Welcome to Recovery Manager screen, click Next .
   <LI style="MARGIN: 1em 0px 1em 20px">On the Microsoft System Restore screen, select No , and then click Next .
   <LI style="MARGIN: 1em 0px 1em 20px">On the System Recovery screen, select Yes , and then click Next to continue the recovery process.
   <LI style="MARGIN: 1em 0px 1em 20px">The Recovery Manager gives you the option of backing up your data files. To do so, read Backing up your files .
   To continue recovery, select No , and then click Next .
   <LI style="MARGIN: 1em 0px 1em 20px">A recovery progress screen opens. Wait while files are restored.
2. When System Recovery is complete, click Finish .

Getting waterboy2 going was quite a success, Your patience and knowledge in that direction were a brainstormer.:hammer