what would you use - onboard Audio or audio PCI card?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by jpmad4it, Sep 22, 2005.

  1. jpmad4it

    jpmad4it Private E-2

    hey there

    I have a choice of using my onboard realtek AC97 audio, or i have a Philips PSC 605 Sonic edge 5.1 32bit PCI audio card (which also has a gameport on it)

    which woulkd you use? I heard that onboard audio is a bit poor - but i was wondering if the PCI card is any better?

    How can i stop the devices conflicting if i do end up using the PCI card? Do i just uninstall Ac97 audio from the PC and then disable in the BIOS? Then install the PCI card afterwards?

    any suggestions?

    regards Jp
     
  2. sleepygamer213

    sleepygamer213 First Sergeant

    I use onboard for gaming.... I dont really notice the difference anyways.......
     
  3. PaulSquatch

    PaulSquatch Private E-2

    I prefer my Creative SB Audigy OEM PCI card over my onboard realtek 7.1 audio, although I am currently using both. I could be wrong, but I don't think realtek chips support EAX, so I use the audigy for gaming.

    I use my Audigy with my 4.1 computer speakers and I use the digital audo output of the onboard realtek chip to send stereo music signal from Winamp to my home theater receiver in another room. That way I can listen to mp3's in the other room during gaming or general computer use.
     
  4. kiwiredman10

    kiwiredman10 Private E-2

    On-board is usually fine. A friend of mine has the Audigy 2 LS - and I have the onboard from my mobo (Abit AN7 nForce2) - which supports 5.1. I have never noticed the difference and the only reason I would want to upgrade is to get 5.1 - so there seems no point for me.

    It depends. If you are going to invest in some 5.1 speakers (brilliant for multiplayer games - gives you a nice edge) and your on-board doesnt support it then obviously upgrade to a PCI card that does.

    About conflicts with your onboard and the card I dont know the details but in the past I have just installed all the drivers e.t.c for the card and never had any conflict - however, this maybe luck rather than the way it is...
     
  5. jpmad4it

    jpmad4it Private E-2

    i tried, and it conflicted lol

    Spent last night trying to clean the botched installatiion up. geeeees

    back to normal now :)
     
  6. kiwiredman10

    kiwiredman10 Private E-2

    I guess mine was luck then!

    Whats your mobo specs? I dont mind having a nosey around to see if I can find anything to help.
     
  7. Triaxx2

    Triaxx2 MajorGeek

    Being a fan of flight sims myself, the only reason I can see, is if your onboard doesn't have a Gameport. If it does, I don't really see any disadvantage. And if it conflicts, just disable the onboard.
     
  8. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    The theory is that onboard audio uses precious CPU cycles and resources, so you are usually better off with a dedicated sound card, as that has it's own electronics to do the work, and doesn't rely on the motherboard or CPU.
     
  9. kiwiredman10

    kiwiredman10 Private E-2

    That is true.

    But is it worth the extra £ or $? The small amount of stress taken off of the mobo and processor wont do that much to the rest of the system (hardcore OC'ing exempt) - unless, of course, your doing some form of music production - but then you would have a card anyway!!

    Kiwi (soon to change...)
     
  10. ACE 256

    ACE 256 MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Overclocking Expe

    I have a soundblaster live soft modded to a audigy 2 ZS and i used to think onboard sounded ok till i got this ..... I went from ~20%CPU usage :eek: to around 5% and the EAX in games is amazing....and it might be in my head but i think my games are faster now ...
     
  11. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    Dedicated sound cards are almost always better.

    Having said that, the quality of onboard sound these days is very good.
     
  12. skiddyrow

    skiddyrow Private E-2

    As mentioned the quality of onboard sound is pretty good these days and I use my onboard sound to play games and listen to music in general with no complaints (except that there is a click when I turn on the computer and the volume is turned up!). I also have an m-audio soundcard hooked up to studio monitors that I use for music production, so it really depends on your need. You can always save that money you thought of spending on a soundcard and buy a better speaker system...
     
  13. theefool

    theefool Geekified

  14. jpmad4it

    jpmad4it Private E-2


    i did- it made no difference
     
  15. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Its been my experience that standalone cards are better simply because of driver support.

    Motherboard companies are slow to release drivers, and half the time, you can't find reference drivers.

    I've had many an issue where onboard audio drivers also caused instability due to them not being very well written.
     
  16. Coco

    Coco Sergeant Major

    Really? I've never had problem with onboard sound driver support. I could see some minor isseus if you ran a 64bit OS right now, but otherwise the motherboards themselves also come with the drivers needed to make the onboard sound work. It's been well over 5 years since I haven't seen the audio driver come with the motherboard when it's onboard sound.

    I have had many issues with windows update, updating onboard sound drivers to a "better" version then what is on the motherboard CD, and that has broken it many times. But I just solve that by never trusting windows update for driver support, everytime I have it bites me in the ass.
     
  17. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Games generally require regular driver updates. yes onboard will work fine with drivers from the motherboard CD, but its only a matter of time till I game complains about them. A perfect example is my wife's HP, where sound randomly stops working in games, until she reboots.

    As for getting drivers from Windows Update, yeah, thats playing Russian Roullette, IMO.
     
  18. Coco

    Coco Sergeant Major

    I'm suprised, I'm running an oboard sound driver from 2003 on this comp and I've never had a problem. Maybe just some are bad. I almost always use ASUS boards when building now and honestly once I've had sound working, I've never had it die in any game.

    In fact the only time I've had trouble with a working soundcard and games would date back to DOS games. Where you had to setup the sound card for each individual game. Now sometimes that was a problem.
     
  19. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

    Thers a forum at majorgeeks.com,ask for a guy called adrynalyn he should be able to help :p
     
  20. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    I dunno, last I heard, he sold out, and is using a Mac. Who would want help from him?

    What a loser.
     
  21. Rikky

    Rikky Wile E. Coyote - One of a kind

  22. Insomniac

    Insomniac Billy Ray Cyrus #1 Fan

    lol, Adrynalyne, we seem to agree more and more every day. :p
     
  23. Adrynalyne

    Adrynalyne Guest

    Ow!

    Low blow!

    ;)
     

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