Windows 98 2nd edition service packs

Discussion in 'Software' started by eigenvalue, May 5, 2005.

  1. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    shadow

    389 MB were "cleaned out" by CCleaner (and prior to that I unchecked "last download location")

    should I save their resulting list of files, etc permanently deleted or removed by CCleaner ??

    and should I click on same for updates ??
     
  2. Anon-068c403e2d

    Anon-068c403e2d Anonymized

  3. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Click on Run Cleaner then click on OK
     
  4. Anon-068c403e2d

    Anon-068c403e2d Anonymized

  5. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    trend micro didn't work again---am up to about 7,000,000 bytes received

    did run CCleaner another time---very fast cleaning---can't save what they removed the first time, even if I wanted to---did not click for updates,
    as already, yesterday, clicked or checkmarked "automatis updates"

    kadavill---have not clicked on your NASA links---NASA doesn't pay much either---the lawyers I know (or many of them) make "big bucks", and, for example, one can "bet their bippy" they'll never be any (or a significant amount of) "outsourcing" re "lawyering"
     
  6. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Alright then, skip TrendMicro and lets go to Symantec Security Check Click on Start under Virus Detection, Norton will want to install ActiveX controls, click on Install both times.

    Scan should start.
     
  7. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    shadow

    on the 3rd or 4th try the Trend Micro "Housecall" (and some "update
    engine and pattern file") downloaded---immediately prior to that 4th or so attempt I defragged (took hours), as I couldn't even get online with NetZero for a couple of hours, so, I figured defragging might help

    kadavill

    "nifty" two (2) links to NASA on SCRAMJETs and rocket engines
    ---will comment further later (as NetZero may disconnect me at, I guess, any time)---re brevity, it does look simple, right ?? eg no complex
    non-linear partial differential equations, no "bruised egos" on the "path" to "semi-success", and "real easy" federal funding ?? hah hah
     
  8. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    That's good, will the TrendMicro Online Scan run now?
     
  9. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    it ran for an unknown period of time, ie a gray screen poppped up (at the beginning) which had


    scanned XXXXX eg C.back slash etc & constantly changing
    total scanned XXX (numbers of files & increasing) infected files XXX

    virus (column) scan result (column) file (column)

    las time I looked it had scanned about 56,000 files & had found no infected files

    hit the sacvk, and when I woke up resources had dropped, again, to about point 01 percent, and I couldn't move
    the "warning" window from in front of the gray report thing (so didn't know
    how big the scanned files number got)---ie this PC froze---so, turned
    the PC off (and not via start, and not via alt+control+delete)

    when I turned the PC on, even before the icons on the PC came on, a report begann "rolling" called "TSG damage cleanup engine"

    and "on and on and on" "rolled" stuff like

    executing trojan XYZ
    executing worm ---robot---pattern
    etc
    etc
    etc


    for hundreds or thousands of "rolling stuff" and the above in white printing, on a black background

    got tired of looking at it, so exited or "clicked it off"

    nothing appears to have been permanently damaged re this PC, but
    unless I can "temporarily" disable, say, McAfee stuff, I doubt I'll be ever able to complete any Trend Micro scan---PLUS Trend Micro might have some bugs ?? ie what does "damage cleanup engine" mean ?? THEIR cleanup engine is "damaged" ??

    late for an appointment
     
  10. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    That is the Damage Control Service from TrendMicro Cleaning up after itself and any leftovers from Viruses it may have found and remove.

    I am really concered about the the loss of your system resources. I am thinking that McAfee is the culprit.
     
  11. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    I'm back (12:10 PM)

    but I cannot even learn what Trend Micro has found, seeing as I'm "advised", by Memokit, that my resources are getting "real low", and that notification comes up in a BIG "box" which blocks me from reading what Trend Micro has done (or is doing)

    Macfee's stuff have never reduced my resources to below more than, say, 52% "available"--the dropping down to, say, "point 01 percent" or even say 25%, came about after I had/have used (??) the programs which were
    frecently installed to "ferret out", and/or destroy (??), trojans. viruses, etc

    well, can I TEMPORARILY "disable" all McAfee programs ?? such that they,
    TEMPORARILY, don't consume ANY resources, or at least reduce the consumption of SOME resources ?? I assume PERMANENT uninstall
    of ANY existing McAfee programs is something I do not want

    Another point, and I don't know what caused it, in the past two (2) "sign
    ons", or "booting ups", no large McAfee icon (and LARGE box) comes up on
    my desktop desktop PC temporarily---in other words, such a LARGE icon (and large "box") used to come up for about two (2) seconds BEFORE
    my small folder icons (on the desktop, of my desktop PC) came up---after that two (2) seconds, or thereabouts, that LARGE McAfee icon (and large "box") would disappear

    in the latest (or most recent) case of the resources dropping to an enormous degree, I suspect (don't know) that was due to "running" Trend Micro

    Perhaps (don't know) installing, and running, Symantec Security Check won't consume too many resources, and would do "almost as good a job" as Trend Micro ???

    on ANOTHER matter, I received, yesterday, by snail mail, the NetZero CD
    (same to be "shoved into", later, into my laptop)
     
  12. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    kadavil

    names to look for (re say Google searches ??) concerning "seminal" SCRAMJETR work (and "seminal" CFD work) are (at least) Paul Libby, Roberto Vaglio-Laurin, Antonio Ferri, Walt Daskin, Bob Byrne, Lou Feldman, Harold Rosenbaum, Harry Gould, Gino Morreti (or Moretti), Martin Hoffert, Sy Zyberg, Ray Edeleman, Ernie (or Earnest) Sanlorenzo, and some guy named Martilucci (spelling ??)--my true name is none of those people

    one can peruse issues of the "AIAA Journal" (over say 1963 to say 1975) and see publicly published work of all, or some of, thodse people
    ---also, (re the "AIAA Journal", and web searching, one can "search" re General Applied Science Laboratories (re "the era" say 1963 to say 1975)

    the physics "phenomena" (spelling ??) is a lot more complicated, re SCRAMJETs, than has been disclosed in any NASA photo
     
  13. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    That large icon is just a startup screen, if your icons are in the system tray then McAfee started correctly.

    Do CTRL+ALT+DEL, select Exec, click on End Task.
    Next select Memokit, click on End Task. Close the Task Manager.

    Now try to run the TrendMicro Online Scan
     
  14. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    kadavill

    Also, re Antonio Ferri, he was (as best I can recall) the "father" of "The Method of Characteristics", which has to do with inviscid supersonic
    aerodynamics---"clear as mud" ??

    and Paul Libby was "heavily into" such things as turbulent boundary
    (or boundry) layers, and chemically reacting "flows"--"clearer than mud" ??
     
  15. Anon-068c403e2d

    Anon-068c403e2d Anonymized

    Thanks Eigen,
    I will check them.
    What maths do you need to comprehend them?
     
  16. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    when I do Alt+control+delete , a window pops up which lists
    programs running (??), among them major geeks etc, and three (3) options-----there is no "exec" to click on (re those optios)
     
  17. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    kadavill

    linear partial differential equations, vector & tensor analysis, non-linear
    partial differential equations, mathematical methods in physics (graduate level), numerical methods and/or finite difference "techniques", and the like

    and it "wouldn't hurt" to know at least "a little bit" about quantum mechanics
     
  18. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    No Exec, That's good. Were you able to stop Memokit?
     
  19. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Also, can you list what the running processes are when you do a CTRL+ALT+DEL.
     
  20. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    and, kadavill, I have "failed" re TRYING to bring up, as web pages, PAST articles (say going back to 1963) which existed in the "AIAA Journal"
    over the past some forty two (42) years

    ---any help on that would be appreciated
     
  21. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    major geeks & support forum - Windows 98 SE etc
    inbox - outlook express
    my NetZero - free dial-up service etc
    NetZero
    active time
    Explorer
    memoKit
    Mpftray
    Rnaap
    Exec (make that "blue")
    Mcagent
    Qttask
    mcvsesen
    Mcvsshld
    Stimon
    Systray
    Ptsnoop
     
  22. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    correction or addition

    (make that blue ??????????)
     
  23. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    what do you mean "stop" memokit ??
    why would I want to stop memokit ??
    their "pop up warning" tells me I MAY soon crash, or freeze
     
  24. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Endtask the bolded entries above.
     
  25. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Memokit may actually be causing your system to be running low on 'System Resources.
     
  26. Anon-068c403e2d

    Anon-068c403e2d Anonymized

    Memokit is a ram manager.I dont think it does any good.
    What do you think Shadow?
     
  27. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    kadavill

    and add matrix throey (and practice), or "juggling around matrices"

    you also might want to do a web search on ANSYS, and, separately, fluent

    "state of the art stuff" re finite element stress analysis, and re subsonic aerodynamics (re CFD, and, at least, "commercial stuff", or non-defense industry "stuff"), and "other stuff"

    both "late players", or fairly recent "players", in the computational CAE (computer aided, or computer assisted, engineering) "space"---they both have web sites

    shoot, nobody, today, if they know what they are "doing", doesn't use computers in engineering, nor "goes back" to slide rules and/or to desk calculators---hmm --"a triple negative" ???
     
  28. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    memokit.exe "consumes" about 556k of (??) RAM (??)---that's "peanuts" in the "RAM consumption department" relative to the OTHER "RAM consumption stuff"
     
  29. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    and I have 512 MB (??), M not K, of RAM in this PC
     
  30. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Yes, the program itself may be small, but as it checks the state of your memory, it may not be releasing the system rescources. Therefore consuming free RAM space. I want to rule it out as the cause of your 'Low System Resources'.
     
  31. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    With 512Mb of memory you shouldn't be having system resource issues.

    Something is using up the system RAM, and not releasing it back for use by the computer. Windows 98 is horrible when it comes to memory management, and I have found that most memory managers aren't very effect, and some of them actually compound the problem.
     
  32. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    botom line---you suggest I uninstall memokit ??

    well, there goes another 30 bucks are so--and their "pretty graphs", and "pretty lists", are sort of interseting
     
  33. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Not yet I just what to make sure it isn't part of the problem. For now just exit the program.

    Then try to run the TrendMicro Online Scan.
     
  34. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    I've "clicked and made blue" both memokit and, seapately, Exec,
    and then (separately) have "clicked on" "end task" for each of them

    is that the same thing as "exit the program" (??)--and with respect to ONLY
    those two (2) separate line items which come up after doing alt+control+delete ??

    adding--I've just had to do (with respect to a "political forum thing")
    log on, again, and had to change my user namer & password---what on earth "bumped me off" ?? ie so I had to do that "task" again ??
     
  35. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    won't attempt to do trend micro housecall again until I get feedback re the below (re the system resources problem)

    man, you guys are causing me to "run out of scrap paper" (to write little notes, and "things to do lists")
     
  36. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Yes 'End Task' is similar to exiting a program. When you exit a program it doesn't always exit all the running processes. By doing 'End Task' from the 'Task Manager' it stops and exits the running process.

    In short we a forcing a program to close.
     
  37. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    OK (clear enough)

    I didn't even KNOW that "pop up" WAS/IS the "task manager"

    will try to run, again, trend micro housecall, and immedisately
     
  38. Anon-068c403e2d

    Anon-068c403e2d Anonymized

  39. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    got to step out for a while. Be back in about an hour.
     
  40. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    did the trend micro housecall

    this, in part, is what happened

    scan started at 2:25 PM, at that time duration was 2 hours, 15 minutes (had been online since around noon), and "prior" bytes received was about 6,400,000

    scan stopped at 4:12 PM, and 120,000 files were scanned (far fewer than the some 300,000 to 400,000 scanned yesterday by CCleaner)

    during the scan I remained online (most of the time)---at about 3:29 PM I received a warning about (about to be disconnected----inactivity)
    --so, brought up an ad

    the start button went blank (white) at about 4:08 PM---109,200
    files scanned at that point---"session ove" (said NetZero)---Trend Micro
    kept on scanning---couldn't bring up/determine (nor see a "blinking" computer icon, lower right hand corner, where I could "right click" for "statuds", ei couldn't determine, via that, duration, nor bytes received

    4:12 PM---message from Trend Micro "Congratulations--no viruses (etc ??) found"---that was after they had scanned 120,057 files---don't know why
    Trend Micro only scanned 120,057 files, rather than the 300,000 or so files scanned by CCleaner

    hit, then, after the Trend Micro scan, alt-+control+delete, to re-boot this PC
    ---and, for some reason, the large McAfee icon (big box) came up again, plus memokit came up again, both after the "re-boot"
     
  41. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    and near the end (shortly before was finished) of the Trend Micro scan I
    "dug out" (via systems information, and then via "systems resources free")
    what the resources were, at that instant in time (or thereabout)---was 36%., and not "point 01 percent"

    and Exec "came up", again, after re-booting and checking using alt+control+delete
     
  42. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    kadavill

    I suspected I would have to "re-join" the AIAA (was a member over about
    1962 to around 1970, and then again from around 1982 to 1990)
    ---I currently get "inundated" with stuff via membership in three (3) other engineering societies (IEEE, ASME, and Optical Society of America)

    I guess the AIAA has prior issues of the "AIAA Journal" on microfilms
    --"some day" I may "feel frisky" and check that out

    Google is going to scan, apparently, ALL the pages of ALL the books
    in the Univ. Michigan librararies, and, who knows, Google may also do such re all prior isssues of the "AIAA Journal"

    still, "your pictures" re SCRAMJETs, and rocket nozzles, were interssting-----------NASA has a "great" PR department ??
     
  43. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    and I know "just a little" (relative to guys/gals with PHDs in Physics) about quantum mechanics (but possibly far more than is known by most mechanical engineers, or aeronautical/aerospace engineers)

    ah, the BIG question (??)---is it a particle, or is it a wave, OR both !!!
     
  44. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    TrendMicro is only scanning file extensions commonly associated with viruses, hence the 120,000 or so files.

    We only force stopped the processes. When you rebooted they restarted at sytem startup.

    CTRL+ALT+DEL, End Task both Memokit and Exec.

    Now run the Symantec Security Check Click on Start under Virus Detection, Norton will want to install ActiveX controls, click on Install both times.

    Scan should start.
     
  45. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    I need an hour or so of "break time"---after that "will do"
     
  46. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    kadavill

    both finite element stress analysis techniques, and CFD (computational fluid dynamics, which includes gas dynamics, aerodynamics, and the like)
    techniques, make use of large matrices (and much "looping" to get convergence---re matching boundary conditions within, or at the border of, the "grids" or "meshes")---one "picks it up" (the knowledge) thru experience
    ("on the job" experience) and/or thru formal education---very specialized stuff, and very important stuff--otherwise one "spins wheels" thru time consuming (and expensive) experimentation ie "hey, let's try this, and if that doesn't work, then try this"---even the auto industry became, eventually, "hep and in step" with some technological tools developed within the aerospace industry

    old ways "die slow deaths"---the "fear of innovation", etc
     
  47. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    approximately how many bytes will Symantec download to me before
    they do their scan ?? I've been online for some time, followed your instructions, and their "little world" (right hand uper corner) has stopped spinning for some time---and I didn't de-active (3) their java thing re their online home (??) page
     
  48. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    kadavill

    and pretty soon "we" will see (eg, NY Times, and Wall Street Journal) reports of patent disputes concerning MEMS, and nanotechnology, as there has been a LOT of risk capital (maybe $5 billion ?? who knows) going into that R&D, and that intellectual property
     
  49. Shadow_Puter_Dude

    Shadow_Puter_Dude MG Authorized Malware Fighter

    Did you End Task Memokit and Exec?
     
  50. eigenvalue

    eigenvalue Sergeant

    yes, but for some reason Exec "popped up" again AFTER I "end tasked" Exec

    I also did NOT click on "continue without using javascript" PRIOR to the downloading (apparently) completing AFTER I had posted below

    I also didn't see Windows 98 SE (but did see Windows 98 ME) in the list'of operating systems, so, on that list I put a bullet in "none of the above"

    on that same page something said "you have blocking of going further (or words to that effect)"--but I clicked on continue, anyhow, and then came
    up, again, "continue without javasript"---I clicked on that---dont know where I stand re downloading, or executing (??), Symantec's Security check
    for virus infections
     

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