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A call to folding

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Speculant, Oct 23, 2014.

  1. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

    Finally cooled off here, time to fire up Folding to heat the computer room. ProDuo at modest overclock is like a hair drier.
     
  2. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    Good luck. We need the points!;)
     
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  3. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

  4. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    DOA, I agree with the need for link repairs, especially since Stanford apparently reworked the website, which resulted in some new URLs.:p Herein are my proposals for our MG repairs. Perhaps you and others will validate what I propose.:rolleyes: Maybe even an admin will take note.;)

    "downloading and running the client software" https://foldingathome.stanford.edu/download/

    "Folding Client Software" https://foldingathome.stanford.edu/download/
    "Folding@Home homepage" https://foldingathome.stanford.edu/
    "Our Team Stats (Team #12072) http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=12072
    "Official Forum Thread" https://foldingforum.org/
     
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  5. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

  6. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Hi all

    Done on email to Tim/Jim on the changes and updates to the F@H links, great that you all still do this.

    OMG my F@H user ID is at 69 in the MG team!
     
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  7. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    Last edited: Nov 19, 2016
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  8. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    Tim, thanks for the fantastic redo on the Site Info. It all happened, while I slept and it wasn't a dream!:D I especially like the add of the link to
    this thread. Sometimes it gets lost in the Lounge.:rolleyes:Atm, I can't think of any other changes, but maybe some of the others have ideas. David,
    great job on relaying to the right person. It really made for a smooth flow, start to finish. Well done all!:)
     
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  9. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    My pleasure. It's one of those things that has slipped over the years so I got on it immediately for you :)
     
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  10. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I've joined the folding team and I've left everything at it's defaults. When I went on my Inspiron laptop this morning, the air coming out of the vent was only moderately warm. I run 4 versions of Windows on the Inspiron and only have the client installed on one version (8.1 Pro) though.

    I also have a Latitude running 3 versions of Windows and am skeptical about installing the client on the Latitude because it runs considerbly warmer than the Inspiron (I think it needs an air dusting but, I can't do it or afford to have a computer tech do it).
     
  11. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    It will use a ton of CPU. Set it to run only when idle and lower the power to medium or light. You could also set it to start with Windows and close it before you finish for the day or stop it.

    Buy a can of air, take side of the case off, take it outside and blow it out. It's easy to do and for the most part, safe and hard to damage everything. Just do it in bursts and shake the can as it often sprays a little wet if you just spray non-stop.

    And welcome!
     

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  12. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    Actually, the client is set for low cpu/gpu usage (10%). The latitude is a laptop and I have cans of compressed air. My problems are vision and tremors. I have the service manual for the Latitude but can't read the print — it's too small and my tremors have caused me to fling tiny screws to points unknown.
     
  13. Major Attitude

    Major Attitude Co-Owner MajorGeeks.Com Staff Member

    I'm not a fan of doing it with laptops. You made the right call. In the case of a laptop, you'd want to remove the underside and blow things out. I don't like blowing the fans on a laptop because the dust goes in, not out. While they aren't hard to remove the back, I don't recommend most people do it.
     
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  14. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    OK. I'll just do folding on the Inspiron laptop and in Win 8.1 Pro. I won't install the client on the other 3 versions of Windows I've got installed. I've been running the client for about 24 hours now and there are no problems to report so, I'll leave it run.
     
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  15. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    Welcome to the team!:) Its good to see another new bee like me:DOccasionally check your temps with Speccy;)
     
  16. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    I'm curious. Has our team reached the "saturation point"? I left Win 8.1 Pro, where I have the fah client installed, to go into Windows 10 for a while. I went back to Win 8.1 Pro and when I hover my mouse over the fah icon in the System Tray, it says "no active folding slots available".
     
  17. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    Right click the icon and select "Advanced Control". You should see the status of what is happening. Also, check the "Log" tab.
     
  18. mdonah

    mdonah Major Geek Extraordinaire

    There's no "log" tab that i can find. I brought up the protein viewer and there is activity.
     
  19. DavidGP

    DavidGP MajorGeeks Forum Administrator - Grand Pooh-Bah Staff Member

    Folks you are doing a great thing and while most if not all of folding is not related as yet to my medical research work, its invaluable to cancer and other areas, think they deal with malaria which is some of my work.

    KEEP FOLDING.....
     
  20. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    mdonah, after you click on Advanced Control, it should bring up a window, showing status. There are three buttons on it ; Fold, Pause, and Finish. Just above the three buttons are three small tabs: Status, System Info, and Log. Do you see these?
    Your Advance Control Status should display similar to this:
    Capture.PNG
     
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  21. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    Nvidia display driver 376.09 was released on 28 Nov. It seems to be good at breaking and not fixing things. There are still quite few disgruntled
    users on the Nvidia forum. Nvidia responded that the Folding@Home issues haven't been resolved. (See post# 30) https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-driver-feedback-thread-released-11-28-16-/1/

    Folding@Home suggests not using it either. Another Bug Report has been submitted by DutchForce. (See page 6) https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=29276&start=75

    I'm still using 373.06
     
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  22. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    It breaks gaming too... at least several of mine are running a lot worse on that driver than they did before the update. Rolling back as we speak.
     
  23. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

  24. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    Hey, sorry it took a while to reply. I haven't had time to go online until now (Football watching is important!)

    Two things - Speccy calls that OP's nvidia driver "undefined". The most recent driver for the GTX 670 has version number "undefined". As in, that word instead of a number. Personally, I would not want that driver on my computer for that reason alone.

    I rolled back to this driver, same version you did. I don't want to post in that thread and add yet another chef and more confusion, but my recommendation would be for the OP to download the correct driver for his card, then reboot to SafeMode and install there. Make sure the installer is allowed to remove all traces of the old driver, and run the installer by right-clicking and selecting Run As Administrator. Best way I know of to fix a corrupted video driver.

    Good luck! :)
     
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  25. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    Thx Mimsy. You, being both an avid gamer and a folder, provided me the right assurance, for a driver to go back to.:) Yep I had to do some offline stuff, too. I was watching some birds peck the stuffing outa some black cats.:D
     
  26. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

  27. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    Oh good grief. :rolleyes:

    My GeForce Experience has been firmly told to not install anything without my approval. I think I will keep things that way for the foreseeable future.
     
  28. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    Mimsy, plz tell me what you think of probably my last shot for the GTX 670 issue, post76, is here
     
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  29. Mimsy

    Mimsy Superior Imperial Queen of the MG Games Forum

    Well, I'll be... Re-reading the Speccy report, your OP in that thread has a version of my motherboard, the P8Z77-V. He has the LK, I have the Deluxe version. I have never had any issues at all with it, but I never attempted to use the onboard video adapter.

    While I haven't closely re-read the thread and may be suggesting something that's already been tried, the only things left to do if your last suggestion doesn't work, is t replace the card and see if that fixes the issue.

    Or update the motherboard BIOS. ASUS motherboards are weird like that.
     
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  30. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    just did receive my two EVGA GeForce GTX 470's today

    this should improve upon my i3 core and Phenom x2 555 CPU's folding stat's

    majorgeeksactivefolder.gif
     
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    pcspeak Private E-2

  32. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    only one of my Fermi's are up and running,still awaiting a PSU via FedEx,should arrive soon.

    stats.jpg
     
  33. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

    Part time running my ProDuo. Seems like the ProDuo is made to fold. I shut folding off in the evenings when I game.
    Will be interesting how the Fermi's stack up, takes a few days for folding points to build up and level out.
     
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  34. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    4 slots running,2 CPU's and 2 GTX 470's, now to see the results.
     
  35. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    changed out the high temp GTX 470's one is the Asus Nvidia gtx660 ti,the other MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr lll,keeping one of the EVGA GTX 470's in my newly aquired HP workstation z400 Xeon W5580,so now running 6 slot's, 3 cpu's and 3 gpu's.

    I hope the weather stays cool enough here, though I should be able to run the cpu's year round.
     
  36. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

    Nice! Gaming is eating into my folding time. Not a bad thing.
     
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  37. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    had to shut down the Xeon quad core W5580 cpu, over heating as I did not think when I changed out the W3503 I would need a better performing heat sink fan which is on it's way by snail mail.
     
  38. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

    Impressive scores noprob. I may have to bring more hardware online. Going to stop when I am in third place probably. Will come back later after I get my electricity measurements with the new car (all electric).
     
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  39. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    I had no idea running 3 GPU's and 2 CPU's would have such an impact!

    I had stopped crunching, doing the Folding@home project back in 2013.
    Took me some time to get back into the know of things.
    Which has me to wonder why the many Majorgeeks.com member's/donor's are not running at least 1 CPU (newer dual core or better) or GPU (fermi)

    and thank you DOA.
     
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  40. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    correction:

    2 gpu's and 1 cpu

    though at the time of the previous post that was correct,now steady with no heat issues.

    fold on
     
  41. 8Ball

    8Ball Specialist

    hit the big 42. Keep on folding everyone! :D
     
  42. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    looks like warm weather is near so this won't be for much longer.

    from the mountains of West Virginia
     

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  43. DOA

    DOA MG's Loki

    Same here, don't want the heat now.
     
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  44. noprob

    noprob Corporal

  45. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    going to shut down two (2) GPU's ,the GTX 470's on local and spare soon,though I did purchase another N570GTX TWIN FROZR III POWER EDITION/OC as this card does well on ppd @ high 40,000 almost 50,000 ppd.

    fold on

    P.S. using fah-installer_7.4.16_x86.exe installing to C:/ drive and this particular setup on windows 7 pro x64 O/S localhost is the only slot / computer using the updated fah-installer and Nvidia drivers because of constant bad work units,the other three (3) computers are using fah-installer_7.4.4_x86.exe with Nvidia driver 373.06 that Mimsy posted with no ill results on those computers,all computers are windows 7 pro x64

    Folding@home.jpg Folding@home.jpg
     
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  46. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

    It seems the NVIDIA drive issues have died down for the time being, due to some temporary fixes. The warning to avoid 375/376.xx (for xx<48)
    is still in place. Later drivers seem to be working. However, PPD Points per Day, are reported to be lower for the newer drivers. So, it seems a number of folders are staying with the 372 series or 373.06, as I have. My folding seems to be working fine, so I choose not to "Fix it".
    Besides. my rig is really old and doesn't always do well with new drivers.:rolleyes: My gaming is old stuff, too. So, no needs there.;)
     
  47. noprob

    noprob Corporal

    using nVidia driver on all computers 373.06 [Win7 Pro x64]

    I'm not sure how long this will last as it depend on the weather here in the mountains of West Virginia.

    It has been chilly for this time of year.

    fold on
     

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  48. StruldBrug

    StruldBrug Specialist

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